ALTRAV,

Wrong again. I am an environmental sociologist researching what scientists and scholars are saying. I am in a very good position to make accurate comments on the people-environmental interrelationships and their political and social causes and consequences.

May I suggest you take yourself off to university and get appropriately qualified before you make rash comments about what I can and cannot do. To date you have shown me that you are a bogan who is driven by political bias, crackpot ideas about how the world works and his hip pocket more than by facts and observation.

If you want to do something worthwhile may I suggest you tell ScuMo to start spending his 11 billion dollar slush fund on crisis relief than shoring it up to buy votes at the next election.

Children are young. Their brains, particularly their frontal lobes, aren't fully developed. Frontal lobes govern self-discipline.

https://www.healthline.com/human-body-maps/frontal-lobe

The frontal lobe is the part of the brain that controls important cognitive skills in humans, such as emotional expression, problem solving, memory, language, judgment, and sexual behaviors. It is, in essence, the control panel of our personality and our ability to communicate.

The frontal lobe is also the most common place for brain injury to occur. Damage to the frontal lobe can create changes in personality, limited facial expressions, and difficulty in interpreting one’s environment, such as not being able to adequately assess risk and danger.

Do you know what else is tit for tat? Cancer patients giving money to SSSS to they'll SSSS right-wing voters. Right-wingers tend to vote against end-of-life choice laws.

When you hit your kids, or yell at them, you're ALREADY disrespecting them.

You're teaching them to use violence to teach others. You're no better than Grelod.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Grelod_the_Kind

40+ hours is child abuse. No one needs to do that unless they want to become an Olympian.

No calculators is also abusive. You might as well as a child to surpass Tiger Woods with a cheap $50 set of wooden golf clubs.

I was abused. Too much school and sport and no relaxation. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. It also turns Jack into a dropout (he won't have time to study). I did take it up with my father. He admitted his numerous errors and lets me do as I please.

I envied this poor child:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-tiger-mom-defends-harsh-schedule-for-son_1983580.html

It's a pity her son didn't take justified revenge.

Altrav, did you read the previous post? CO2 isn't always good for plants. The graph is a curve, not a straight line.

http://www.fao.org/3/w5183e/w5183e06.htm

Dear Luciferase,

Firstly my apologies. I have mixed you up with Leo Lane which was why I was so stunned by the post. I had imagined hell had frozen over.

From memory like I, you are an ex-Australian Democrat. The landscape has certainly changed since those days.

As to me having evolved, or probably more precisely devolved, into picking scabs off for fun, you are probably in part correct although there is a little more intent than just amusing myself.

But I will have to suffer your continued approbation because I have zero intent on adjusting the tone of my posts in the face of things like climate denialism. If I felt there was any chance of changing cemented in views it might be different, but there really isn't.

I am embarrassed for and by my country at the moment. The fact that we could vote in a bloke who took great delight in shoving a lump of coal in our faces is a case in point. I believe I'm perfectly justified in holding people to account for that embarrassment and will continue to do so with vigor. It is meant to discomfort, and to return the embarrassment, and to ridicule.

It may seem a little like guerrilla warfare given how far Australia has shifted to the right, well away from the values of a party like the ADs, but the pendulum will swing back one day.

Steelie,

Thank you for the peace-making.

You may have linked me to LL as I once took the time to disagree with his posts when nobody else would bother.

I'm an ex-Labor supporter as at this point in time, but may come back to the fold if they start making sense again. However, until they satisfy my inquiry into their policies I have expressed on OLO, and until they drop opposition to the only proven solution to AGW there is, nuclear energy, I will cleave to the dark side.

I start from a position that the aggregate wisdom of the electorate must be respected, not that it was duped in an election that was merely a messiah contest where Labor chose its contestant poorly. Shorten wanted more meet on the policy bones than his arrogantly confidant party would give him.

Morrison's coal moment was to highlight that coal, and fossil fuels generally, will realistically continue to be Australia's main energy source notwithstanding renewables penetration. I expect the LNP to take a position on emissions that includes nuclear energy to the next election. That has to be a response to the fires, apart from what I have said above re raising the intensity of fuel-load reduction.

runner,
I see you're too chicken to answer the questions I put to you last time, so I'm not holding out much hope for a response to this. But I am curious as to the reasons for your latest post.

What do you think is wrong with secularism?
Can you think of a better alternative?
What have these fires got to do with "regressive ideology"?
How do you think spanking would improve things?

Luciferase, I come from a position of disbelief.
Disbelief that people can be so easily sucked in.
I understand that the general public is, generally speaking, ignorant and un-informed, mis-informed and also guided by emotion and subjectivity, instead of pragmatism and objectivity.
These things being so, how can anyone consider an election in this, or any, country to be a viable and productive choice, expecting the govt to do what is in the best interests of the public?
I am reminded that our govt is only as good as our people, because after all, the pollies come from the public.
Albeit, a very arrogant and self important group of people who dare to come forward and essentially tell us that they know what is good for us.
And more often than I care to admit, they would be right, because the public really don't care about what is going on in Canberra until it affects them and their life or lifestyle, either physically or financially, or both.
Even then, not enough people bother to express their anger or dissatisfaction to enough pollies to get them to re-consider the decision.
In this case, regarding the fires.
It is completely unjustified to complain to the govt about not having done enough to mitigate against this latest tragedy.
If we do then we have to complain to ALL the political parties.
But, that aside for the moment, there cannot be anyone more guilty of this catastrophe than those who paved the way for it to happen.
The GREENS/LABOUR.
One side of politics had their hands tied as the other were pandering to a group of stupid, ignorant, selfish people with the maturity and intellect of primary school children.
So let's apportion blame where it's due, GREENS/LABOUR!