The Kurds were never anything other than pawns in a plot to make a piece meal out of Syria.

The thing that bothers me is how much you all seem to defend the Kurds, but none of you pay a second of care towards the Syrian people who've had foreigners attacking and occupying their nation for the last 7 years.

This proves how much you all are victims of corporate media narrative and are bareley capable of thinking for yourselves.

What about Syria being a sovereign country?
They're recognised by the UN.

All foreign actors should get the hell out of dodge.
They have no right or justification for being there.

You're all victims of the news which is largely propaganda.

Did you hear about the coup in Iraq?
No because they would make the US look bad.

Did you hear about the Iranian tanker getting bombed?
it would be a different story if it was a Saudi Tanker

Did you hear the Yemeni's capturing 2000 Saudi Troops and a contingent of US military vehicles?
We don't want the inept Saudi Army to face desertion do we?

Do you not think the US was supporting IS in Syria?
Who else were they supporting there?
Their objective was to remove Assad
Israel hates Hezbollah, they're their enemy not IS.

A failed regime change, millions dead or displaced
- And for what?

Greater Israel Project?

"Mr. Trump remains under fire". Mr. Trump is always under fire, but it doesn't worry him a jot. Unlike Australia's pansy politicians, he is a strong man of great conviction - not one to be put down by mewling Leftists with a death wish for their culture.

Nobody is "betraying" the Kurds. And what Turkey - totally alien to the US and Australia - does is a matter for Turks to sort out. Australia has enough problems of its own. It's only a matter of time before nonsensical multiculturalism is going to be dragged up, and nutty talk about Turkish immigrants and their 'wonderful contributions' to Australia will be sprayed around.

It's good to hear the admirable Donald Trump pronouncing the Turkish President's name the way it is written, too, instead of copying the way non-English speakers say it.

A good point there from Armchair Critic about Kurd waffle when it's not their country being attacked.

Just 100 US troops in Syria was all that prevented a blood-lusting Turkish tyrant from invading and a blood bath for US allies. Allies who'd paid with their lives by the thousands!

And were before this cowardly betrayal, just to bolster reelection prospects and for no other reason! Still keeping a thousand or so ISIS prisoners behind secure wire!

Now credible report sees them lose and at large. The Turkish tyrant's reason for this insane invasion? Clearly, his sympathetic views toward ISIS have long been well known and well ventilated by that "gentleman"!

Further, there are a few misguided Australian citizens now at risk of annihilation as they now await their fate in now uncontrolled former Kurdish controled prison camps and given other nation ar and have been going in and bringing their folk home!

That's the least we can now and should do! We have enough laws to detain them for as long as we need to deradicalise those who need such and we can test its efficaciousness with unbeatable, space-age lie detection!

Something that could also be deployed to process the huge and exponentially growing queue of new plane arrival asylum seekers, much more expeditiously!

Who after all, are humans and not some political football to be used to proper the election prospects of Slime and grubs!
Alan B.

So 'patriotism' now means that you piss off and leave your former allies in the lurch ?

Lest we forget, indeed.

And of course ISIS will re-group in Syria and Iraq, and disinter the corpse of their caliphate, in cahoots with the Turks. Maybe even Trump knows that, which is why he's sending more troops into Saudi Arabia.

Iraq is in a state of anarchy, so ISIS will easily set up their caliphate their again. Yes, eventually, they may turn towards Europe, but Erdogan thinks that's his baby. He'll use ISIS, then turn on them. No honour among thieves.

Speaking of thieves and Trump, how's his twin towers going in Istanbul ?

Meanwhile, the utterly useless Democrats fluff around, moving further 'left'. So both Trump and the Democrats ignore the majority centre ground.

Oh Mr Hart, what a mess.

Joe

Syria Plan A: Using IS to overthrow Assad

When that didn't work...

Syria Plan B: Supporting Kurdish independence to balkanise the country
As well as deprive Assad of oil revenue needed to fight the war and rebuild the country;
As well as provide oil revenue to fund the war against Assad.

John Kerry says partition of Syria could be part of ‘plan B’ if peace talks fail
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/23/john-kerry-partition-syria-peace-talks

Syria plan C - Just have Israel keep bombing them and the Iranians, block their oil shipments and funds to rebuild and make up slanted news narratives...

Loudmouth "Iraq is in a state of anarchy".
I saw a video a few days back of about 15 to 20 thousand Iraqi's storming across a city bridge packed like sardines, The events currently going on are pretty big I think.

- It's actually another US sponsored regime change.
Apparently Iraq is using Iran and China to rebuild, and the current government is not complying with the US geopolitical agenda.
Sorces with the Iraqi government knew there was a coup and regime change planned some months ago, I could find you a link but I'd have to dig a bit from a few days back.

I've looked at the live war map.
http://syria.liveuamap.com/
The Turks haven't done much harm yet, but they have made some inroads, and I expect will soon have cut off a key highway between Manbij and Qamishli, if they haven't done so already.
Reports of Turkish backed militia's killing unarmed captured civillians and the killing of a female Kurdish politician Hervin Khalaf.
https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2019/12-october-images-of-a-suv-that-was-carrying-cochairwoman

This killing has also been reported in our media.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/13/female-kurdish-politician-among-nine-civilians-killed-by-pro-turkey-forces-in-syria-observers-say

“Victimhood rather than stoicism or heroism has become something eagerly publicised, even sort after, in our culture. To be a victim is in some way to have won, or at least to have a head start in the great oppression race of life. At the root of this curious development is one of the most important and MISTAKEN JUDGEMENTS of the social justice movement; that oppressed people (or people claiming to be oppressed) are in some way better than others, that there is some decency, purity and goodness which comes from being part of such a group” (Source: ‘The Madness Of Crowds’)

Now, whether of not Kurds themselves would seek victim status is unknown. But, victim status is certainly being sort for them here by the usual suspects - for purely ideological, political reasons, and to vent their spleens against Donald Trump.