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Cynical enterprises: the Kurds await their fate : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 11/10/2019

In time, the United States replaced European powers as the Kurds' serial betrayers, and seemed to relish leading projects of autonomy down the garden path.

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Joe. Thank God there's at least one poster able to use the brains he was born with and rare common sense!
Cheers, Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 11 October 2019 5:18:09 PM
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Dear Loudmouth,

"Turkish forces have killed at least 277 Kurdish fighters in a major military operation in northeast Syria, now in its third day, Turkey's defence ministry says."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/turkey-military-operation-syria-latest-updates-191011060434166.html

Fighting with the Americans to defeat ISIS and a couple of Trump Towers now sees them dead.

It seems you can't take the business out of the businessman and people were foolish to think they could.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 11 October 2019 6:12:47 PM
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Ttbn,

We are Australians. Kurdish Australians are Australians. And Kurds in the Middle East laid down their lives by the thousands (12,000) in order to defeat ISIS. Perhaps you don't keep up with the news.

Kurds have been in the Middle East for thousands of years, and originally, before the Arab invasion in the seventy century, they occupied what is now Iraq and Syria and western Persia. It's their country, as it is/was when ISIS launched its dreadful push for a caliphate.

Now the West is abandoning them. They fought for you and me and we are now abandoning them. But you couldn't give a sh!t, could you ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 11 October 2019 6:34:51 PM
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Joe,

Very romantic of you. You clearly believe the old mot that your enemy's enemy is your friend.

Kurds certainly have a beef with Arabs; nothing to do with us. The West should never have become involved in the Middle East and it's barbarous people. Your comment that "They fought for you and me" is fanciful to say the least.

And, no: I don't care about people who keep ancient hatreds alive. I do care about the conflicts they have caused in my country thanks to busybodies and do-gooders sticking sticking their noses where they don't belong.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:15:47 PM
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Ttbn,

"The West should never have become involved in the Middle East and its barbarous people. "

But they did. And the US repays the Kurds for their dedication and sacrifices with betrayal. Nothing much romantic about all that, just pure gutlessness and deceit.

So what if ISIS breaks out again ? Is it true that Trump got his military men to advise the Kurds a few weeks ago to dismantle their defences ? And how come the Turks were already primed and ready to launch attacks on the Kurds within hours of Trump's betrayal ?

Round 2 of the battle against ISIS - and do you think the thirty-million Kurds should renew their dedication and sacrifices ? For the US ? Even for us ?

What a worthless bucket of dog vomit Trump is.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 12 October 2019 9:04:08 AM
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What happens outside Australia is beyond our control. We have to fix our domestic problem, attack it at its roots and stop producing fanatical Jihadist Islamists

We must eradicate fanatical Jihadist Islamism in Australia by every means at our disposal, including :

• Legislation of the offence of indoctrination and/or incitement to radical or physical Jihadism, assimilating it to “murder by proxy or intent to cause grievous bodily harm or reckless indifference to human life by proxy” – with a maximum penalty of life imprisonment, and a standard non-parole period of 20 years, or 25 years for the murder by proxy, or intent to cause bodily harm etc., by proxy, of a child under the age of 18

• Legislation of the offence of aiding and abetting Jihadists in Australia and anywhere else in the world by providing assistance and support of any nature whatsoever – with a maximum penalty of ten years

• The federal government should exert its authority on the Islamic institutions in order to obtain their agreement to the creation of a global Muslim institution : the Australian Muslim Association (AMA), responsible for organizing and funding the Muslim faith in Australia – training and remuneration of imams, construction of places of worship, devising theological regulations and monitoring procedures, and fighting against Islamophobia and anti-Semitism

• The AMA and Islam in Australia should pledge to remain perfectly independent, at all times and in all aspects – especially theologically and financially and especially in relation to all other Islamic authorities and institutions around the world.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 12 October 2019 9:31:50 AM
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