Hey OzSpen,

Based on what I know, I think this:

If they fled Sri-lanka to India to escape persecution then I'd class them as refugees when they went to India whether or not the Indian government did.

However, unless they now faced persecution in India for which they had to flee from also, then I wouldn't consider them refugees in their trip to Australia, I'd consider them migrants.

I don't know if they lied to the Australian government about the length of their stay in India or the situation there.

But I'd send them back too.
In fact I'd probably have done exactly what ScoMo has done.
Make them leave and send a clear message that the only way to come into Australia as a migrant is the right way, no exceptions.
And just as he's done, encourage them to reapply so they can officially be allowed in the right way to also show people there's a correct path to going about it.

It seems to me he's almost telling them 'Go, and then you can come back'.

The way I look at it, if these people started a gofundme page they'd probably raise $100,000 easily and be living well with their own private security.

These people were willing to put their kids on a boat;
It hardly seems like a big deal to catch a plane home, fill out the right paperwork knowing the Australian PM did himself encourage them to reapply.

Finally I don't see why 'escape from turmoil on home soil' should be a permanent thing anyway.
They were able to escape from what was happening at home and bring their family somewhere safe where things were better.
There's no need for any of these people to stay permanently if the situation in their home country stabilises.
What more do we owe them?

They should go home and try to be a part of making their home country better.
If they want to stay, they have to go about it the right way.

Let the bureaucracy take it's course, and I'm sure they'll be back soon enough.

Armchair Critic,

<<These people were willing to put their kids on a boat>>

I wish you would get your facts correct. This couple arrived in Australia as singles in 2012 and 2013. They married here and their children were born in Australia. They DID NOT bring their kids to Aust on a boat: 'their daughters Kopika, 4, and Tharunicaa, 2, were born in Australia', http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/mother-of-tamil-family-speaks-of-ordeal-on-christmas-island/11468422

On 7 Sept 19, The Guardian Australia reported:

"Some 52 refugees and asylum seekers in offshore detention have received temporary protection visas or safe haven enterprise visas, according to new statistics that fly in the face of the Morrison government’s refusal to allow the Biloela Tamil family to stay", http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/07/home-affairs-data-gives-lie-to-coalitions-refusal-to-let-biloela-tamil-family-stay.

The Australian Govt can change the visa status of refugees and asylum seekers when it suits them, but now refuses to take the same action for the Tamil family. I find it to be unconscionable behaviour by a Govt.

Hey Spencer,
I want to raise an issue with you on a much more serious topic.
But it's hard for me to find the right words for this topic.
It's going to all come out wrong I know it...

I don't know how much of this stuff I'm about to say is true and how much of it is still a working theory, but bear with me:

If my so-called 'conspiracy theorist' type concerns hold any merit at all;

Then I believe that Christians are walking themselves off a cliff, and they're going to take everyone with them; EVERYONE
And they're doing this with help from the progressives and all the other useful idiots that buy into PC, hate speech crap and the like.

Can I ask you do you know how badly your religion is under attack right now?
And the extremes others have done in order to carry it all out?

All this, (which I'll get too, just wait) and it seems you and Peter Bowden, the main Christian contributors are completely clueless as to whats going on.
Don't take this the wrong way, but the content of your articles seems unimportant or superficial - in the greater scheme of Christian issues.
It indicates to me that you're both in some kind of dormant state, unaware of whats really happening and that your not talking about the things you should be.

You're worried about this Tamil people issue (don't take that as criticism)
But soon they're won't be any nations;
- Or Christians.

Let me dig deeper into what I'm trying to say.

Can you grasp the idea of trying to obscure a target?
This is going to be a really bad hypothetical but I can't think of a different example, sorry:

Say you were a spy agency and you wanted to kill one person but you didn't want to make it look like they were the target so you stage a mass shooting event and kill 50 just to obscure the one target you really wanted gone.
Can you grasp the idea of obscuring the target?

[Cont]
Well, in all this PC and hate speech liberal agenda happening globally;
(I often talk about it generally being about bringing forward a global government agenda)
I think the agenda is SPECIFICALLY engineered in a way that obscures the real target;
- And the real target is you Christians.

The racism agenda has provided them specifically free movement in other nations.
The freedom of religion agenda allows them to congregate and bring forward their 'religious' plans in other nations.
And this hate speech agenda stops Christians from saying that they must repent;
Or essentially that the New Testament superseded the old.

For 2000 years Talmudic Rabbis have been pissed that Christianity made their religious rule obsolute.
And they've been trying to rectify this issue ever since, they're getting real close;
Quietly moving the chess pieces in the background with a smile of their face,
Hiding in plain sight behind big business, monetary policy, and social organisations.

If you think I'm wrong, then tell me about this:

You're all wondering why there is this persecution of Christians, but you don't understand who your enemy is.

50 years ago, did the Catholic church oppose the establishment of the state of Israel, and oppose Zionism?
And now, 50 years later, Jews have written a new version of your bible which they say is not Anti-Semitic.
Obviously there's going to be a few changes, that put you back under the thumb of the 'old ways'.
(You see the agendas real purpose now?)

I encourage you to watch read these and get back to me afterwards.

Watch / read these for some background:
The Jerusalem Conspiracy
http://youtu.be/syUSQEUpTTQ
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/118979/sanhedrin-nikki-haley-president/

Now watch what I watched on Saturday night.

Pressure to Move Hague to Jerusalem
http://youtu.be/PwZ6dbTlcdU

Kabbalah Rabbis Present Christians with a New Gospel
http://youtu.be/cNz_gZV8HyA

Your Father is the Devil: Zionist Jews Demand Censorship of New Testament Holy Bible
http://youtu.be/0Kj1yyxQP54

(You'll have to skip forward through the news 20 mins or so to get to the discussion of the above topic)

Armchair Critic,

<<Then I believe that Christians are walking themselves off a cliff, and they're going to take everyone with them; EVERYONE>>

You haven't provided substantial evidence to support your theory. The truth is that this is where genuine, born again are going and those who repent and seek God's forgiveness go: 'For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him' (John 3:16-17).

Instead of taking everyone over the cliff, we invite people to seek God's answer to the individual and national sin problem by repenting. Jesus' explanation was: 'The thief [not the Christian] comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I [Jesus Christ] have come that they may have life, and have it to the full' (John 10:10).

'Over the cliff' is replaced by eternal salvation

<<Can I ask you do you know how badly your religion is under attack right now?>>

I don't live in a cocoon. The Christian faith has been under attack since the first century. I currently support Christian ministries that serve persecuted Christians in overseas countries.

Jesus warned: 'Remember what I told you: 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also (John 15:20).

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Armchair Critic:

<<You're all wondering why there is this persecution of Christians, but you don't understand who your enemy is.>>

Lucifer takes many people captive through (1) False teaching in the church (1 Timothy 4:1), and (2) Externally through persecution.

<<But soon they're won't be any nations; - Or Christians.>>

You got that one wrong AC. Jesus told the truth: 'And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it' (Matthew 16:18). The church will NEVER be obliterated out of existence on this earth until Jesus’ returns.

Your 2 posts were dominated by your conspiracy theories. But you want to relegate Peter Bowden and me to being <completely clueless as to whats (sic) going on.>> I can't speak for Peter but after 55 years of study as a Christian I understand much (not all) of what is going on and it looks nothing like your theories.