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Scott Morrison needs to 'obey God's message' : Comments

By Spencer Gear, published 4/9/2019

Australians need to see Morrison practise his Christian faith with Priya, her husband Nadesalingam (Nades), with daughters Kopika, 4, and Tharunicaa, 2.

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In reading through the Comments to this thread, I notice that Diver Dan, SF, plantagenet, ttbn, Hasbeen, Alan B, TheAtheist (Are you Hugh H?), and Fester did not address the content of what I wrote.

Instead, you attempted to direct the argument to your antagonism to Christianity, a topic you seem to be better prepared to respond to.

You avoided the issues I raised in this 'deliberate diversion of attention with the intention of trying to abandon the original argument'. So, you committed the Red Herring logical fallacy, http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/150/Red_Herring

This is erroneous reasoning. We can't have a rational discussion when you resort to this kind of deflection to anti-Christian sentiments.
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 5 September 2019 7:51:28 AM
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Oh Boohoo! OzSpen

We, the OLO audience, have a right to address whatever we like.

Its a cheap shot (by the usual pro-boat immigration suspects) to use cute little children and the PM's religiosity to promote your Australia wrecking cause.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 September 2019 9:42:14 AM
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'This is erroneous reasoning. We can't have a rational discussion when you resort to this kind of deflection to anti-Christian sentiments.'

People who believe that this earth came from nothing with all its design have already thrown their brains out the window. The best they can do is mock people of faith while claiming they are rational. No wonder God hands them over to their denial delusions.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 5 September 2019 1:03:01 PM
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East ya hearts our monotheistic God botherers.

Ye should pay homage to the past Greek, Roman, Viking and current Hindu empires/Indian pantheon who

were/are more advanced in believing there are several Gods and ALSO have a place for female Goddesses

- Value plus, Aye?!

This Hindu/Indian Gods-Pantheon Training Film is aimed at those of OLO who are diasabled/disadvantaged

with one god only http://youtu.be/V_NJAJGCKD8
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 5 September 2019 2:50:45 PM
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diver dan,

<<Oh..so suddenly it's a Christian society now is it Spenser (sic).>>

At no point in my article did I state Australia is a 'Christian society'. I appealed to the evangelical Prime Minister Scott Morrison to fulfill his divine responsibility:'Speak up for people who cannot speak for themselves. Help people who are in trouble. Stand up for what you know is right, and judge all people fairly. Protect the rights of the poor and those who need help' (Proverbs 31:8-9).

<<Actually, stupid me was believing it was actually a secular society....>>

To the contrary, the foundation for Australia is in the Australian Constitution, the Act to Constitute the Commonwealth of Australia in 1900. It states:

"WHEREAS the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, humbly relying on the blessing of Almighty God, have agreed to unite in one indissoluble Federal Commonwealth under the Crown of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and under the Constitution hereby established", http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/Constitution/preamble

So, Dan, our foundation is not only Christian but appeals to the Judeo Christian Almighty God.

Sorry to advise, Dan, but this Constitution does not establish Buddhism as its foundation.

However, the nation is more than happy to accommodate and integrate people from other religious traditions.
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 5 September 2019 5:27:26 PM
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Have the Australian Home Affairs ministers ever intervened in other illegal asylum seeker claims?

Many of the news reports have Morrison and Dutton defend sending the Tamil family back to Sri Lanka as, 'It can’t make exceptions based on community sentiment because to do so would send a positive signal to people smugglers'.

However, has the Australian govt ever made exceptions for asylum seekers?

The Guardian Australia on Wed, 4 September, reported that,

'On Wednesday morning Morrison spoke to 3AW radio’s Neil Mitchell. Both Morrison and Mitchell used the term “illegal immigrants” to refer to people who sought asylum in Australia by boat. Mitchell asked Morrison if the minister had ever “intervened with illegal immigrants”, noting that he had used his intervention powers more than 4,000 times.

'Morrison replied: “Not to my knowledge. I’m not aware of all those 4,000 cases. There are many of them, I used to be an immigration minister".

'There is at least one known, reported case of Dutton intervening on behalf of someone the government would describe as an illegal immigrant.

'In July, Guardian Australia revealed Dutton approved a plan to bring a refugee child to Australia after he was lobbied by Nauruan authorities. The stateless Rohingya boy, whose parents were murdered in front of him in Myanmar, arrived on Christmas Island by boat in October 2013. He spent a number of years on Nauru before Dutton agreed to let him settle in Australia with two relatives.

'Separately, among the more than 4,000 cases of ministerial-level intervention are the infamous au pairs.

'The minister has also intervened in other cases that have prompted community concern, including families facing deportation because a member has a health condition or disability which excludes them from getting a visa.

'There is also convicted drug trafficker William Betham, whose visa was cancelled in 2016 on character grounds but returned in 2017', http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/04/biloela-tamil-family-deportation-case-the-truth-behind-the-claims

It's time for Morrison and Dutton to step up to the mark and intervene for the Tamil family that is deeply loved by the people of Biloela. Add them to the 4,000 exceptions.
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 5 September 2019 6:15:34 PM
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