Dear Spencer,

A. Grace is the opposite of karma.
B. Karma is a form of grace.

What do you make of this logic?

Karma is but one universal law, just like gravity.
The common thing about them both is their deterministic nature.
Why can't God use determinism, among other ways, to manifest His grace?
One way to look at universal laws is as the angels of God.
Are God and His angels opposites?

«'For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people'»

Definitely, I agree, but why are you saying that this verse is inharmonious with my view?

«God's grace extends to the undeserving, offering eternal salvation to them all. Many reject such an offer.»

Yes, God's grace extends to everyone, offering eternal salvation to all. Our difference seems to be regarding just whether or not we are deserving: People as such, I agree, are undeserving sinners, but in reality we are not people, we only deeply (but mistakenly) believe ourselves to be such, thus undeserving. And yes, we mostly reject the offer, for the time-being at least, denying our divinity and instead continuing to insist that we are just people.

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Dear Critic,

«The part where we seem to disagree is on the matter of their refugee status.»

Why should anyone care whether or not they conform to the formal status of "refugees"?
The point is, that you should never treat people this way, regardless!

«And if so what do you think weighed on it in making his decision?»

Wanting to show us "who is the boss".
Despite all rhetoric, this attitude is not really directed against boat people and their traffickers, but against the Australian people, especially of Biloela. He is eager to demonstrate to them that they are not in control of their own life, but rather that he is.

«"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it.»

This will happen if we continue to reproduce like rabbits.
We already suffer national governments and it's not getting any better: the more people there are, necessarily the less each is valued.

Yuyutsu,

<<Karma is but one universal law, just like gravity.
The common thing about them both is their deterministic nature.
Why can't God use determinism, among other ways, to manifest His grace?
One way to look at universal laws is as the angels of God.
Are God and His angels opposites?>>

Your attempt to amalgamate your Hinduism and Christianity gets you into this befuddled mess.

Karma is NOT a universal law. It's a creation of Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Taoism, and Sikhism: 'Karma is the Hindu view of causality in which good deeds, words, thoughts, and commands lead to beneficial effects for a person, and bad deeds, words, thoughts, and commands lead to harmful effects. These effects are not necessarily immediate', http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/karma-hinduism

There is NOTHING deterministic about God's grace. It is God's unmerited, unconditional favour, love and mercy for the wicked of humanity. That's all of us. His grace that offers salvation is through submission to Jesus Christ. People can reject God's grace, so it's not irresistible (Matthew 23:37).

You got that example very wrong. God is an uncreated being who has and will always exist (Ex 3:14; Isa. 40:28). The name for God, Yahweh, occurs 6,800 times in the Old Testament. It is understood the verbal form, hayah, indicates 'to be', which means 'the eternal One' or 'self-existing One'. God's existence is underived. Nobody made him. He always has been and always will be. He's the One who created this universe and keeps it running.

By contrast, angels are created beings. The time when they were created is not stated in Scripture but this verse gives an indicator: 'For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him' (Colossians 1:16).

Let's get back on track with the content of my article, i.e. Scott Morrison's biblical responsibility to care for the outcasts, the Tamil family.

Dear Spencer,

I write about facts, how things are: whether Christianity agrees with it or not is none of my business. God's grace is a fact - we could not live for one moment without it.

I wonder why you limit God's grace only to the exceptions, the miracles, but not to the deterministic laws of the universe created by Him. If you do not believe in the law of karma, then how about the laws of gravitation, thermodynamics and the speed of light? these too are not mentioned explicitly in the bible, but are they not from God?

Regarding this poor Tamil family, we already said all we could, all that is left is to pray for them. Morrison, despite all that he may privately like to do as a Christian, cannot find the courage to help them because that could be seen as a sign of weakness, that he is not in control and that his word is not a word.

Hey Spencer,
I've got a challenge for you.
- What happened in 1666?

I'm not sure whats happened to GodsGrace btw,
I thought she was going to say something maybe in response to a prior comment
Sometimes its difficult to find the right words and you get scared it'll come out wrong, and then you just move on
- Well that happens to me sometimes anyway.

AC,

<<Hey Spencer,I've got a challenge for you.- What happened in 1666?>>

That has nothing to do with the topic of my essay so it's a red herring logical fallacy: http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/150/Red_Herring

You attempted to redirect the argument to another issue about 1666 to which you think you can respond in a better manner. It was your deliberate attempt of abandoning the argument of my article.

It uses the fallacious reasoning of a red herring.

Bye! Bye!