Rubbish, this worm is no champion of justice, or a WARRIOR, fighting injustice and for our rights, just a contemptible worm, probable rapist and, I believe, a Russian espionage agent. and criminal hacker.

And without question, a narcissistic hedonist, without a shadow of human empathy to temper the way he uses other people and their hard-won resources!?

In all or any of HIS actions or responses, it has always been about or for Julian Assange!?

A man and a warrior, putting all on the line for the rights of his fellow man. Is not, never ever was and couldn't be this miserable excuse for a mature and responsible man. His problem, not prepared to accept the inevitable consequences or any shadow of responsibility for HIS Actions.

If you do the crime? Do the time! End of story!
Alan B.

Bulldust! Nobody will 'be coming for 'us' because a scumbag like Assange gets his come uppance. We will all be safer and better off if he gets locked up for life in America, a real possibility.

ttbn & Alab B you both miss the point !
It has nothing to do with what he might have done or did do.
A foreign government is charging him with an offense against their law.
He was not in the US and might well have been in Australia at the time
of the alleged offense.
US newspapers also published some of the documents in the US including
the video of the helicopter attack. They have not been arrested.
However if this is allowed to stand just do not say anything against
the US as you could be charged with treason, with which Assange is charged.

Why we should care about Julian Assange?

- Because next time it could be any of us.

Every day we must be breaking 100's of laws of other countries, knowingly or otherwise - just imagine if those countries were successfully demanding to extradite us there, where we've never even been, to be charged with breaking their laws!

BTW,notice the similarity to China's declarations on the Sth China Sea !

Just found the info I wanted to include;

China, the Central Kingdom believes that only China is a sovereign country,
all other peripheral countries are vassal states.
These other states must pay tribute.
This principle is known as "tianxia".
President Xi recently made the point that the United States is NOT a sovereign country.
They do not recognise the 1648 Westphalian Treaty which defined what a sovereign country means,
borders government etc.

Do you see the similarity to the US position ?

This miserable excuse for a human being was in Sweden at the time he allegedly broke their law.

And conspired from London, with a US citizen to steal state secrets. And those state secrets the property of our closest and traditional ally! This is known! And he knew exactly what he was doing! But like most parasitic criminal hackers. thought that his London location would allow him to act with impunity. And it can't and won't!

Do the crime and do the time!

And as such should give pause to all those other miserable excuses for human beings to lift their game and moral standards and get your filthy nose and grubby hands off of other folks private property/data

He knew exactly what he was doing on all occasions both of which bear absolutely no resemblance to investigative journalism. And did what he did to try and escape the foreseeable consequences of HIS actions. And is still trying it on!

Or excusable under any civilised standard. Given they put real lives at real risk. Some of them possibly innocent women and children. Those seeking to defend this, empathy-free, immoral grub, birds of a feather?
Alan B.

Yes, Yuyutsu, as I commented a while back do not drive faster than
55mph and you may be pulled over by the California Highway Patrol.
Don't think it would be the first time, the Sharia Police have patrol
cars on the road in New York !

Wow Alan I get the feeling you don’t like Assange, fair enough.

Facts:
Assange is a journalist, he and Wikileaks have won or been nominated for numerous international journalism awards.
Assange did not steal or hack any of the data he is being charged with, it was provided to him and Wikileaks by third persons/organisations.
Assange released information which revealed US/UK and other “Allies” committing war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes contrary to the Geneva Convention and then some. This same information was published by the WSJ, Washington Post, the Guardian and others, strange they haven’t been prosecuted too!

Assange was originally charged with rape, this case was later dropped due to a lack of evidence and admittance by the original complainants they did not want charges brought against Assange as they had been coerced into having him charged in the first place.
Evidence of the now failed “Russiagate” conspiracy against Trump, and in particular the Wikileaks released Democratic National Committee information was not hacked it was downloaded to a thumb drive with scientific evidence to prove so. This further clears Assange of any wrong-doing in this blatant propaganda drive to further deride his standing.

I could go on and on, learn the truth and stop relying on the MSM for facts, they don’t use them anymore.

I personally don’t like Assange, yes he is arrogant and too many other negative words to mention, but don’t let this cloud your judgement.

He is being vilified and persecuted by those he has embarrassed and revealed as criminals. You should reconsider your bias against him.

If he is extradited to the US either directly or via Sweden, you can pretty much kiss goodbye free speech, a free press, or what’s left of it and the end of investigative journalism forever.

Galen: the criminal Assange, is not my cup of tea nor those seeking to defend his deplorable actions. He is not remotely anything like a Journalist. Journalists are very different folk and validate their material before publishing it!

Moreover, no Journalist would seek to hack into the official repository of state secrets, unless spying for another hostile sovereign power.

And where they cease to resemble bona fide Journalists in any way shape or form and just become treacherous traitors!

No, I don't believe this miserable excuse for a man deserves the time of day and needs to face and front up for the consequences of his actions, all of them!

Free speech is not and never ever was carte blanche to steal state secrets! And a man, a real man, would have already presented himself to the Swedish authorities to face whatever crimes he is charged with while in Sweden.

Left to me, he and all his criminal hacker cohort can rot in jail and better than they deserve!
Alan B.

How could Assange be tried for treason if he is not a citizen of the USA?
How can a country that doesn't recognize the US definition of treason extradite him to the US?

Political expediency??

How? Ise Mise. By the country whose laws he flouted, requesting extradition from the country where he is currently residing. And if too petty or unsound could be denied. And has to meet the rules of evidence and probable cause.

An innocent man just doesn't seek sanctuary inside a foreign embassy, just to escape facing his Swedish accusers! And Sweden is historically less likely to grant an extradition request than the UK! So the criminal Assange's story just doesn't stack up nor his BS claims of psychological persecution!

The brits should simply process his extraditions request expeditiously in the order they were filed and that should see him Sweden, to face their justice for any Swedish laws, he broke?

Then after processing and any consequential jail time. Sent back to the UK or directly to the USA.

He's apparently terrified he'll die in jail?

Well, what did this a[pology for a quite grossly immoral man expect? A slap on the wrist with a wet tram ticket?

Do the crime, do the time! No ifs, buts or maybes!

Maybe he should just spill the beans and in a confess all, tell the UK and American authorities, he was only following the orders of his Russian handlers?

You know, the Nuremberg defence?

And as history records, that went well didn't it?
Alan B.

For goodness sake Alan you have missed the point again.
He did not commit an offense against US law as he was neither in the US
when the offense occurred and he is not a US citizen !

Extradition is used to return a person accused of a criminal act in
the country to which extradition is requested.
It is to prevent criminals escaping justice by fleeing to another country !

Got it ?

Assange is neither a journalist nor a publisher.

If there is anyone out to get us they are among Julian's supporters. Labor was all set to light a bonfire of persecution should they have been elected. Personally I felt uneasy about Shorten's comments on "keyboard warriors". Those poor uni students went through hell under 18c, yet many on the left strongly defend the law and such persecution.

The great strength of a nation is the tolerance and friendship that bind us. Vindictive persecution should have no place. My sense of compassion is touched by films like Mad Bastards and Maudie, not by precious ponces like Assange. I hope he rots in jail.

Oh, I see, so you think because you are not a citizen of the country whose laws and security you flout? You are untouchable?

That means those war crimes committed by Nazis in Russia should be allowed to escape Russian or any justice, and the horrors of the Japanese prison camps by Japanese nationals in Burma and Malay etc-etc should be exempted from any consequences?

I agree Assange was not on location at the time e broke USA laws and compromised their security and may have caused the death or torture of many Afghani citizens as surely if he himself had pulled the trigger or the electrical circuit breaker etc!

Everything this worm has done since jumping bail tells he seriously believes laws are for other folks, just not for him and his reprehensible cohort of criminal hackers!

As do the likeminded grubs who defend him and his ILLEGAL activities!

Do the crime do the time, no ifs, buts or maybes!

Imagine, if he'd fronted up he could have served all his tie by now and a free man living a free life with all of thee lessons on acceptable adult behaviour behind him.

Everything he did was with his eyes open and aware of the consequences!

What other possible explanation is there for his attempt to thwart justice by hiding out in an embassy hostile to US laws and security requirements!

Personally, I would have escorted him to the airport, and loaded him on to the first available flight to Ecuador. With the proviso his Australian passport was forfeit! And he could just cool his heels in Ecuador, exiled there for the term of his natural life!
Alan B.

Here's a link to countries that criminalize homosexuality.

Does anyone think that an Australian homosexual who criticizes their laws and claims to have had sexual relations with one of their male citizens should be extradited to face their justice?
He has clearly broken their law and, what's more, admits it.
http://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/

This writer has a point: if someone whom we support, who is on our side, commits crimes like rape, since he is one of ours, he should be given either a soft sentence or let off entirely. It stands to reason. This is done in many societies. True, they're usually utterly corrupt, more like Mafia than democracies, but still, in this case, what's he actually done ? Shagged a couple of tarts, who were gagging for it anyway, then chickened out ? Where's the harm in that ?

Let's move on, put all this behind us and get on with the business of transforming the world into ...... ummm ...... into .... a better society ? No society at all, since 'society' is a bankrupt bourgeois concept to be overthrown in the march through the institutions ? In the overall scheme of world transformation and saving the planet, what's a couple of floozies ?

I enjoyed your comment, Alan.

Cheers

While I don't agree entirely with Alan, there is a vast difference between what Assange did and what the newspapers did.

Firstly Assange corresponded with Daniel Manning not only encouraging him to steal state secrets, but offered him help and advice on how to do it which makes Assange at least guilty of the same charges that Manning faced.

Secondly, while the newspapers were circumspect in publishing information that exposed wrongdoing by the US military, Assange published everything incl names of agents, private diplomatic correspondence etc that lead to the deaths of several people.

Assange has essentially been caught in a web of his own making.

Julian Assange is a gifted hacker who called himself a journalist, after writing and selling news stories based upon the theft of information from other people's computers. If journalism societies have awarded him honours, that does not say much for the ethics of journalists today.

The theft of official secrets from government sources may be viewed by the public as either creditable or reprehensible. The litmus paper test for public approval depends upon whether or not the official information being stolen and published is in the public interest. Daniel Ellsberg's theft of US government secrets during the Vietnam war was considered by the majority of the US public to be creditable, as it completely contradicted the public statements by US officials that the USA was winning the war. You can't publically tell the public you are winning a war and then privately among officials admit that you are not. However, Ellsberg stole and published only those papers which clearly demonstrated that US government officials were blatantly lying to the public.

Ellsberg did not steal 750,000 official documents and then sell them to any hostile organisation or government who was interested in these files, and looking for something, anything, to stick it too the yanks. That action is most definitely an act of espionage.

The question therefore becomes whether or not a state can request extradition from a second state, by a second state resident who has committed a crime against the first state. Up to now, this has never been an issue because such actions were almost unheard of, or not considered legally valid. But times have changed. We now have hacking. It is now possible to commit a serious crime like espionage against a state from another state. As an ally of the USA, it is not in the interests of Great Britain to allow residents within their borders to commit acts of espionage against a close ally. So they are going to extradite Assange, and the yanks will lock him up forever as a warning to every other arrogant hacker, that they can't steal US secrets without consequences

The only crime Assange committed is publishing evidence and exposing the war crimes committed by the USA and its allies. The UK is keeping him in high security prison for skipping bail on a Swedish charge long dropped but re-opened under US pressure. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. The definition of rape in Sweden includes unprotected sex; it was alleged that a condom broke during consensual sex. The Australian govt. intervened for a jailed soccer player, non-Aussie citizen in Thailand, but will not help Assange, an Australian citizen.

'the war crimes of the USA and it'a allies", says Francesca.

We live in a strange world where the world's most advanced, democratic and free countries are considered the enemy by the Francesca's of the world, while despots and tyrants are now the good guys.

London to a brick that Francesca broke her neck trying to immigrate into the countries that she now expresses contempt for.

Well said Francesca;
And the new charges against him are all bogus as well.
Chelsea Manning was trying to entrap Assange but he didn't take the bait;
- To try to break a password for Manning to obtain access SIPRnet -

Check all the facts and look at Mannings history;
Where he was stationed, who he trained with and who he worked for;
And then look into the history behind the 'Secure Dropbox' for Wikileaks and the the big news organisations in the US.

A US Government operation to get whistleblowers to use a certain safe and encrypted online tool - which they actually had a backdoor into.

He didn't do it, and that's why Obama Administration with Eric Holder as AG didn't prosecute previously.

This is because he knows how and who he got the hacked DNC info from.
- And he can prove that it was a leak not a hack and also about the murder of Seth Rich.
And also because Hillary and the Deepstate want payback and also he released the CIA's Vault 7 hacking tools.
(Which more or less prove that any or all evidence against him could be fabricated)
- Or they could just force Manning to testify against him anyway.

And also the Ecuadorian embassy has handed over all Assange's computers etc, including his legal defense to the US.

The bottom line is he hasn't really done anything wrong.
- He released info no different to other news sites -

The difference is the other news sites work WITH government to make sure you don't see certain info;
Which makes them gatekeepers, not news sites responsible for bringing facts to the public.

Don't listen to these other fools Francesca,
They just love wars and the US government blowing innocent women and kids up and taking over countries for corporate greed, Israel and the mighty Petrodollar.
They have no care of ethics or right or wrong just USA, USA!!

Forget all the waffle about who did what as all it is about is can the
United States enforce their laws in other countries.
Extradition is for people who break laws and are now located in another
country.
That is the law.
Yes things are different due to the internet but that does not change the law.

From memory, Bazz, Australian paedophiles in Australia can be prosecuted in Australia for having committed crimes against children in other countries, such as the Philippines.

ISIS fighters can be prosecuted for being soldiers of a hostile political entity, in another country.

It is in fact illegal in Australia for any Australian citizen to take part in military actions overseas, without government approval. Although just who is fighting who seems to be a mitigating circumstance. If you kill for the Kurds or the Israelis, that's OK. If you kill for the Russians, the Rhodesians, or ISIS, not OK.

I believe you are right about that Lego on the military activity.
On TV last night a Nigel Phair of UNSW based in a Canberra office,
seems to be well connected on cyber protection etc.
stated that there is an agreement between a number of
countries, EU Aus, NZ UK, US Japan etc on Cyber crime that where those
countries have compatible legislation a cyber offense committed in one
country against another country is tried by the first country.
So if Assange at the time in the UK or Australia committed a cyber
crime by hacking or assisting a cyber crime in the US he must be tried
in either the UK or Australia depending on where he was at the time.

That did seem to be a definitive indication of the situation.

WIKILEAKS THREATENS COURT ACTION - ATTEMPTING TO CENSOR JOURNALISTS' FREEDOM OF SPEECH

In a move to prevent real journalists from doing to Wikileaks what Wikileaks does every day to Democratic governments, January 7, 2019 http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wikileaks-emails-journalists-with-97-false-and-defamatory-claims-to-avoid-in-reporting-on-founder-julian-assange/

Wikileaks emailed journalists with a list of 97 “false and defamatory” statements about its founder/publisher Julian Assange after claiming efforts to defame him had “reached a new nadir”.

It said the number of “false and defamatory” claims made against Assange had “accelerated” since his internet access at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he has lived for more than six years, was cut off last year.

This rise was “perhaps because of an incorrect view that Mr Assange, due to his grave personal circumstances, can no longer defend his reputation”, it said in the email sent out to journalists.

Before listing 97 “false and defamatory” claims about Assange and Wikileaks itself, the email concluded: “The purpose of this list is to aid the honest and accurate and to put the dishonest and inaccurate on notice.”

It is believed that the list originally contained 140 claims, but the version published by Wikileaks today had some sections taken out."

WIKILEAK'S ITSELF PLACED A SECURITY CAVEAT on its Email List as “NOT FOR PUBLICATION”

But Wikileaks was forced to make the Email List (reproduced here http://pastelink.net/m69m ) public after the List was

LEAKED by JOURNALISTS who DEFIED WIKILEAK's LEGAL THREATS.