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Does it matter if abortion kills babies? : Comments
By Graham Preston, published 10/5/2019If a person were to stand outside Dr Portman’s abortion clinic with a sign saying, 'Abortion kills babies' they would be arrested and potentially fined.
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Posted by david f, Sunday, 12 May 2019 8:12:40 AM
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'As my mother often informed me they stayed together because of me. Had I been aborted they could have separated instead of making each other and me miserable. It would have improved their lives, and I would not be here to argue.'
big assumption david f . I know numerous divorcees who re marry or hook up after marriage and end up in far more unhappy situations. Your sad childhood though explains much of your godless worldview. Posted by runner, Sunday, 12 May 2019 9:54:34 AM
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You heard it here folks: the first person (David f) to say that he should have been aborted.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 12 May 2019 10:09:32 AM
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Dear runner,
My intelligence explains more of my godless worldview than my sad childhood. There simply is no evidence for the existence of a god. All deities are merely creations of the human imagination. I don't need any religious crutch to get through life. Eventually, my life will be over, and that will be it for me. ttbn, what evidence do you have to show that I was the first person to say he or she should have been aborted? Posted by david f, Sunday, 12 May 2019 11:46:26 AM
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David f, casting pearls before swine is admonished in the bible!
So why do it, it is a waste of your valuable time and emotional well being. They clearly see their partners and female offspring as no more than meat to be used as personal property as they please! to be able to argue completely fallacious case! And straight out of the dark ages where women were mere bagatelle or personal property without any genuine rights. That said, we should thank them and the assured effect on the upcoming election as they remind us of the SSM result, all those elected officials that stood against it and now stand again expecting to be returned! And, IF THE CAP FITS? Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 12 May 2019 12:13:45 PM
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The anti-abortion lobby have been losing this argument because people see sentience as defining human status, not DNA, as is clear from various moral decisions that are uncontroversial in our society, including among people who are against abortion. Hospitals switch off a patient's life support system once he or she has been declared brain-dead. (The pro-choice side would say that brain death logically implies brain birth.) We would regard the murder of an identical twin just as seriously as any other murder, even if the victim's DNA lives on in the twin. We would extend human rights to E.T., Commander Data, or the Queen of the Fairies if they actually existed. Third-trimester abortions are uncontroversially illegal.
It is true that Christian tradition is against abortion, except possibly to save the woman's life, but that is irrelevant to people outside. They see the anti-abortion lobby as being much the same as the Hindu cow protection vigilantes in India, nutters who want to ram their religion down your throat. It might be possible, though, to persuade them that the upper time limit for abortion on demand is too late in some states. David f is right about contraception. Colorado in the US made an all out effort to reduce teenage pregnancies by offering free contraceptive implants and IUDs. They managed to cut teenage pregnancies by 40% and abortions by 42%. They also cut unwanted pregnancies and abortions among older poor women. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/science/colorados-push-against-teenage-pregnancies-is-a-startling-success.html "The methods are effective because, unlike the pill, a diaphragm or condoms, they do not require a woman to take action to work." Posted by Divergence, Sunday, 12 May 2019 12:34:13 PM
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Contraception is available, but many people are untrained in its use. If all girls were fitted up with contraceptive devices as a matter of course and given training in their reproductive functions there would be almost no unplanned pregnancies. In our past teenagers would get married, but most will not in the present day. Our sick society has all sorts of sexual excitements but much of our society forbids sex when a person is at their sexual peak. Teenagers are not prepared to make a living when they are at their sexual peak so it would not be good for thdm to have a family at that time. I favor allowing and encouraging teenagers to have as much sex as they want but to prevent pregnancy. I had my first sex at 22, and I mourn those lost years.