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Does it matter if abortion kills babies? : Comments

By Graham Preston, published 10/5/2019

If a person were to stand outside Dr Portman’s abortion clinic with a sign saying, 'Abortion kills babies' they would be arrested and potentially fined.

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Can we please clarify this issue ?

Is a fertilised ovum, a full human being ? If so, then morning-after pills should in the view of some, be banned.

Come to think of it, is every sperm sacred, and therefore contraception should be banned in toto ? Yeah, that might serve some of those wantons right.

Is an embryo already a human being ? Or does this condition apply only to foetuses, with beating hearts ? Up to the end of the second trimester ? The third trimester ?

Once some of the 'self-appointed judges' here clarify these issues, we can know what the hell we're arguing about.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 11 May 2019 1:14:42 PM
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Before a hunter shoots it is required of them that they establish that they are about to shoot a deer rather than another hunter.

If they do inadvertently shoot another hunter it is not good enough for them to say, oh I thought it might have been a deer.

If they are not certain that it is a deer that they are about to shoot then they must hold fire until they are certain.

Just like the hunter, abortionists have the responsibility to show that abortion is not the killing of a fellow human being. They are the ones who want to carry out the act so the responsibility lies with them.

In the article I pointed out that I asked abortionist Carol Portman: When was it conclusively established that abortion does not destroy the life of a child?

Far from giving evidence that abortion does not destroy the life of a child she freely conceded that abortion does kill babies. I then cited a number of other abortionists and abortion advocates who say the same thing.

Indeed, the Queensland Criminal Code, the Queensland Termination of Pregnancy Act 2018, and the Queensland Human Rights Act 2019 all refer to the entity carried by a pregnant woman as a "child".

These are not crazy pro-lifers saying this but abortionists and abortion advocates themselves admitting that every abortion kills a child.
Graham Preston
Posted by JP, Saturday, 11 May 2019 2:10:16 PM
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yep the baby killers show they have the same spirit as the Nazis. Pseudo science and denials and lies.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 11 May 2019 3:04:14 PM
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Laws now exist regarding the termination of
pregnancies. Exclusion zones also exist around
clinics to protect women , doctors, and staff
from abuse.

Abortions are legal and they vary from 14 weeks
in the Northern Territory to 24 weeks in Victoria.
They are not taken lightly and often the approval
of two doctors is required.

The mother's health and the various circumstances
involved are taken into account.

Laws have been put in place to ensure fairness
and equity under the difficult circumstances
that having an abortion entails.
To call it child murder is a very narrow- and
ignorant point of view - based on religious beliefs.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 May 2019 3:05:49 PM
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So, that's . ...... what ? From conception ? (So the morning-after pill is an abortifacent and should be banned ?)

Within, say, a week ? Once an embryo is formed ?

Once a foetus is formed ?

At the beginning of the second trimester ? The third ? At birth ?

I look forward to the day when men can get pregnant - you know, by slutting around. All whores. Tarts. Wantons.

Then we can have a self-appointed panel of women issuing judgements.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 11 May 2019 3:12:19 PM
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Whatever you want to call it: egg, embryo, foetus, it's how humans all start out. Destroy it, and you've cut short a life. Anything else is BS. Nothing will change the facts, specially whacko opinions from the ignorant and murderous.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 11 May 2019 3:18:15 PM
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