There is no excuse for Assange, and blaming anyone else for his plight,including the equally disliked Ecuadorian president, is really pathetic. Assange is a very bad man: a threat to Western security.

The above comments by ttbn are obviously those of a self styled authority whose views of issues in the world are those peddled by the mainstream media on behalf of interests of those who control them. Those who keep an eye on alternative news sources - largely small ones now readily accessible on the Internet often develop considerably different viewpoints. Many realise that Assange with Wikileaks have done an excellent job exposing dirty dealings by governments that they would like kept hidden. Worth noting that the many of the original sources are from sites based in the US or written by journalists originally from the US but on sites hosted in other countries

Ttbn, “a threat to western society” you obviously have no clue.

Firstly, I don’t like Assange, he is arrogant and then some, however:-

He is a journalist, his news outlet Wikileaks has won numerous awards “including the Walkley Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism (2011), the Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism (2011), the International Piero Passetti Journalism Prize of the National Union of Italian Journalists (2011), the Jose Couso Press Freedom Award (2011), the Brazillian Press Association Human Rights Award (2013), and the Kazakstan Union of Journalists Top Prize (2014).”

Secondly, “The facts are that prosecuting Julian Assange under the Espionage Act for exposing US war crimes, as the Trump administration is attempting to do, would strike a devastating blow to press freedoms around the world. This is because there are no legal distinctions in place separating an outlet like WikiLeaks from outlets like the New York Times, the Washington Post, or the Guardian, meaning that a precedent would be set allowing for the prosecution of those outlets on the same grounds, who also publish anonymous government leaks. Which is why the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Guardian have all warned sternly this precedent does not come under, which has also been recognized by the Obama administration.”

Additionally, Assange is not a US citizen and therefore cannot be tried for any breach of US law, the entire story is a fabrication based on lies.

Assange exposed not only US wrong doing but a number of other Countries as well.

The Us & other Countries are more embarrassed buy what has been exposed. There is no openness by Governments & they seal Documents for 30 years of forever. They figure the people involved will be dead & beyond prosecution by then.

What gets Sealed. Backroom Dirty Deals mostly. Even our own Governments, Federal, State & Local have provision to hide "Backroom Dirty Deals" done by our Politicians in collusion with one another. All Governments deny they have Dirty Deals, but sometimes it's so plainly obvious, it's ridiculous, yet they still deny it.

What Assange has done, or I should say, what people have done is give him the material. All Assange did was put it out there for all to see. He exposed the crap is being fed to us by our Governments of all persuasions.

His Greatness Julian Assange's odd band of remaining supporters are those who deny His Greatness's right to FAECAL Expression.

This is a gross violation of Assange the Great's artistic Freedom!

Note: "Mucky-pedia: Julian Assange smeared feces on walls of Ecuador"

in The Daily Mail's, 12 August 2019 expose:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6912403/Julian-Assange-smeared-faeces-walls-Ecuadors-London-embassy.html
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A man, after all has a right to daub what he lays.

Assange's Embassy art (arse?) exhibition...

mox,

You couldn't be more wrong. I generally ignore the MSM.

galen,

I “have no clue” about what, exactly? I can't see anything in your plaudits for the scoundrel that would make me change my opinion.

Oh I thought Assange was a saint. Did he not receive a Walkley award always given to the favourite lefties. Even our resident lefties here use to defend him especially when he was anti Bush. Just like the meetoo movement which has backfired after uncovering numerous leftist creeps he has been dropped like a hot cake. Strange world.

Do you, Ttn, object to the exposure of a number of World Leaders & World Governments illegal activities? or would you rather keep the status quo & allow these World Leaders & World Governments to create havoc through out the world for their own Ego's?

I believe most of the Diplomatic goings on between Countries are a sham. I have said so for more that 50 years. Assange provided an outlet for people in the know & can obtain the information to expose the people that keep the World in turmoil. Turmoil makes money.

I wonder how much America paid Ecuador to eject Julian.

Theatheist: wonder how much America paid Ecuador to eject Julian.

I don't think it would have taken much incentive seeing that Wikileaks dobbed Morello in over his illegal dealing & off shore Banking funds.

Oh that right you not supposed to expose World Leaders & World Governments Secret Dealings. they are beyond reproach.

"I wonder how much America paid Ecuador to eject Julian."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-13/obvious-dirty-dealings-behind-julian-assanges-arrest:

ttbn, why is Assange a scoundrel? You provided no evidence.

Assange and Wikileaks revealed US and British crimes against humanity, breaches of international law and blatant war crimes. If this makes him a scoundrel, well I fully support scoundrels then.

Too much bull sh:t has and continues to be laid at the feet of Assange it’s astounding. Your owners don’t like it one bit, this is why he is being smeared by the MSM at the behest of the powers that be and their paid shills in the media.

ASSANGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRESS FREEDOM

As argued by an infinitely more authentic journalist than the America, thus Australia hater Assange is:

Peter Greste’s
[founding director and spokesman for the Alliance for Journalists' Freedom...], April 12, 2019 http://www.smh.com.au/national/assange-is-no-journalist-don-t-confuse-his-arrest-with-press-freedom-20190412-p51di1.html

“JULIAN ASSANGE IS NO JOURNALIST: DON'T CONFUSE HIS ARREST WITH PRESS FREEDOM”

Standing before a media scrum in London, Julian Assange’s lawyer Jen Robinson declared that his arrest on Thursday "set a dangerous precedent for all media and journalists in Europe and around the world".

If his extradition were allowed, she said, any journalist could face charges for "publishing truthful information about the United States".

As someone who has been imprisoned by a foreign government for publishing material that it didn't like, I have a certain sympathy with Assange. But my support stops there.

To be clear, Julian Assange is not a journalist, and WikiLeaks is not a news organisation. There is an argument to be had about the libertarian ideal of radical transparency that underpins its ethos, but that is a separate issue altogether from press freedom.

In the American extradition request, WikiLeaks is accused of conspiring with the whistleblower Chelsea Manning to publish a huge trove of military documents in 2010. The documents included the infamous "collateral murder" video filmed from the gunsights of two US Apache helicopters as they opened fire on a group of men in Baghdad, including two Reuters journalists, killing them all.

Other documents included the Afghanistan War Logs, the Iraq War Logs, and "CableGate" – a trove of classified diplomatic cables that contained some embarrassingly undiplomatic analysis of world leaders and their countries. So far so newsworthy.

MORE OF ARTICLE TO FOLLOW

FROM ABOVE

"But Assange went further. Instead of sorting through the hundreds of thousands of files to seek out the most important or relevant and protect the innocent, he dumped them all onto his website, free for anybody to go through, regardless of their contents or the impact they might have had. Some exposed the names of Afghans who had been giving information on the Taliban to US forces.

Journalism demands more than simply acquiring confidential information and releasing it unfiltered onto the internet for punters to sort through. It comes with responsibility.

To effectively fulfil the role of journalism in a democracy, there is an obligation to seek out what is genuinely in the public interest and a responsibility to remove anything that may compromise the privacy of individuals not directly involved in a story or that might put them at risk.

Journalism also requires detailed context and analysis to explain why the information is important, and what it all means.

When The Guardian and The New York Times got hold of the cache of files that Edward Snowden downloaded from the US National Security Agency in 2013, they spent months searching through it to pick out the documents that exposed the extent of the NSA’s surveillance operations. Then, the newspapers took months more to release those stories in a cascade that was as explosive as it was impressive.

In 2015, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists got hold of more than 11 million documents leaked from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. But the ICIJ did not simply publish and be damned. Instead, it compiled a team of journalists from 107 news organisations across 80 countries, who then spent more than a year going through that vast trove. They carefully dug out evidence that confirmed corruption, tax evasion and the evasion of international sanctions by some of the world’s most powerful business and political elites

http://www.smh.com.au/national/assange-is-no-journalist-don-t-confuse-his-arrest-with-press-freedom-20190412-p51di1.html

MORE TO FOLLOW

FROM ARTICLE ABOVE

It was long, hard and expensive work, but it was also journalism at its finest, fulfilling its watchdog role by fearlessly holding the powerful to account and doing its best to protect the privacy of those who were doing nothing wrong."

"Julian Assange did none of that, so he cannot claim to be a journalist or hide behind arguments in support of press freedom. The distinction matters because of the way the digital revolution has confused the definitions of what journalism is and its role in a democracy.

We at the Alliance for Journalists' Freedom are committed to restoring public trust in journalism, which can only ever happen if its practitioners work with responsibility and respect. It has never been about opening up a hosepipe of information regardless of the consequences.”

http://www.smh.com.au/national/assange-is-no-journalist-don-t-confuse-his-arrest-with-press-freedom-20190412-p51di1.html

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As the article http://www.smh.com.au/national/assange-is-no-journalist-don-t-confuse-his-arrest-with-press-freedom-20190412-p51di1.html

indicates Assange is merely a political activist, not a true journalist. He mass dumps anti-American (Australia's ally's) secrets.

Assange's treatment of Russian secrets is rare and fawning.

Assange also supports the Edward Snowden franchise of Wikileaks which, with ex-CIA/NSA agent, Snowden's defection to Russia, is harboured by Russia.

Oh dear Pete, you really have drunk the kool aid haven’t you. The MSM shills have got you hook, line and sinker.

Here are some factual counter arguments

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/04/15/the-fake-charge-against-julian-assange-proves-that-the-us-government-has-no-integrity/

And

http://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/04/06/why-your-hatred-of-assange-is-completely-irrelevant

Weren't the Swedish after him for Rape? As a white male he is guilty.

ASSANGE IN A SWEDISH "PRISON" KEEPS HIS INTERNET ACCESS...

The reason so many of Assange's aroused supporters want him to be sent to Sweden is because of Sweden's relaxed legal system.

If Assange the Great goes to Sweden. Assange:

A. Innocent OR guilty, will quickly be set free.

B. Will be "imprisoned" under palatial conditions with conjugal visits from his 1,000s of rich female supporters, eg.

__Cricket lovin Jemima Khan http://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2011/apr/10/observer-profile-jemima-khan-wikileaks and

__Baywatch intellectual Pammy Anderson http://www.foxnews.com/tech/pamela-anderson-calls-julian-assange-a-hero-and-asks-for-his-release

C. Assange the Great will have Internet Access even if he is in prison. Allowing him to keep on running the pro-Russian, anti-Western Democracy Wikileaks organisation, and

D. Sweden is geographicly close to Russia where (like Edward Snowden) Assange will escape the US legal system. In Russia Assange will be welcomed by the dictator Putin, the dictator Wikileaks supporters respect.
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BTW

Assange and his Wikileaks (Western-secrets-leaking-factory http://wikileaks.org/ ) is hereby congratulated by President for Life Putin

in Wikileaks' concentration on information to embarrass the Western democracies in which we live.

This has freed up an ever grateful Putin to kill Russian opposition figures and other Enemies of the Russian State unquestioned by Wikileaks' supporters.

There might be multiple offenses for which the US is charging him.
There are the files downloaded by Manning and then there are the emails
of Hilary Clinton on the Democratic National Party's computer server.
Do I see the hand of the Clinton foundation in this ?
From what I have read on one site it might be the latter case that is
of more interest to the US "Dark State".
I notice that Assange has stated that he did not get the emails from Russia.
Hmmm just mentioning Russia causes more interest than war crimes.

Also there's Wikileaks releasing the CIA Vault 7 hacking tools;
And the manner in which he received the Podesda emails which cost Hillary the election.

Many of you forget that Assanges only crime was exposing warcrimes and wrongdoing by a foreign government.
No-one in the US Government has ever gotten in trouble for the war crimes, and America continues to do these things to this day.

Take Syria: Armed, Trained, Funded terrorists

Take Venezuela:

They speak of humanitarian aid;
But are the sanctions and economic war waged in order to try to bring the country to its knees to enact a regime change not a form of collective punishment on an entire nation of people?
And do you think the President and his government going to go without steak tonight?
Maybe they'll have eggs on toast?

While the nation starves?
Didn't they eat the Zoo animals last year?
How many kids and elderly will die?
- Have died -
How many killed for this particular attempted regime change?
Do you not think the US is considering / planning a military invasion?
(They are)

The US does this OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again...
Country after country
Innocent people be damned.
It doesn't seem to EVER end.
Endless Killing.

And no-one faces repurcussions for the things Assange exposed.
- And you all think he's the problem -

A lot of you people need a BIG reality check

Hi Armchair

It is true dumping some streams of documents and the odd Video may be valid.

But Wikileaks indiscriminately dumping 20 to 30 x 100,000s of documents?

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_material_published_by_WikiLeaks

with the 100,000s year by year, particularly from 2009.

In fact Wikileaks' DUMPS may total "10 million documents"

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

"WikiLeaks...publishes secret information, news leaks,[5] and classified media provided by anonymous sources.[6] Its website, initiated in 2006 in Iceland by the organisation Sunshine Press,[7] claims a database of 10 million documents in 10 years since its launch."
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All that DUMPING of the documents of Western democracies.

When did Wikileaks dare to dump 100,000s of CHINESE or RUSSIAN documents?

As an ordinary citizen, I see Assange as a traitor.
He betrayed his own people and country on the battlefield.

Fine! if he has no loyalty to his own people, then his own people need have no loyalty
to him.
He is stateless because he deserves to be.
Loyalty goes both ways.

These posters that say he revealed terrible war crimes, need to reveal those exposed war crimes.
A group of men were shot standing around a truck. Given that the enemy
was continually turning trucks into bombs maybe the strike was understandable.
But where are these other war crimes?? None to speak of. The wikilinks documents
were conspicuous by the absence of any real bad exposures.
If there had been any, there would have been headlines everywhere.
So America was to a large extent exonerated by all those documents that revealed little against America.

Certainly not the burning of people alive in cages. Taking people as sex slaves.
There were very few cases of rape by US forces.
No live beheadings. No killing of all the boys and men in villages by lining them up and shooting them.
Wikileaks found no war crimes like this against America.

Chereful, the vehicle looked like a minbus van.
I did not see any weapons in their hands.
Assange is not stateless.

The question still is, How does the US apply its laws in foreign countries ?

Assange inciting Americans to commit crimes under American laws.

Corrected by extraditing Assange, Artiste de Poo,

to Quantico military stockade, Virginia USA.

Alright, this has gone too far.

You know the term 'useful idiot' means?
It means people who will spout total crap and support the wrong team without actually looking at the facts or themselves even knowing what they're even on about.

"The wikilinks documents were conspicuous by the absence of any real bad exposures.
If there had been any, there would have been headlines everywhere."

- Can't even spell it right -

Wikileaks didn't release the CIA's Vault 7 hacking tools?
If you know the basis of those tools you'd know they can also fabricate the evidence against Assange you idiot.

Do you people understand the basis of governance in the United States of America?

It's administered under the US constitution.
The US government does not hold unlimited power against its own people.
The US constitution is a CONTRACT between the government and the people.
The US constitution does not grant powers to government, but stipulates the 'limits of government'.
The Bill of Rights recognises RIGHTS enshrined in law to the people.

Now take all this in you morons;
And understand that in the US, in regards to 'the contract between government and the people';
When government oversteps it's boundaries and does not govern within what is stipulated in the constitution, then the contract is broken.
It loses legitimacy to govern.

Snowden showed breaches of the Fourth Amendment in mass surveillance of US citizens.
"...the people have a right 'to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.'

This is the law of the land.
And the people have a right to remove a tyrannical government under the provisions of the Second Amendment.

And just so you know, 'A well-regulated militia':
Well-regulated in those times meant 'gunsights' or 'accuracy in firearms'...

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.

You idiots should be forced to learn some facts before you have opinions and advertise your intellectual laziness.
Many do more harm than good.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=8746&page=0#280674

"Assange inciting Americans to commit crimes under American laws."

Where exactly did you get this from or do you just make this shite up?
What don't you state facts instead of talking in riddles?
I know some about the Jabbr conversations allegedly between Manning and Assange, there's no evidence it was even Assange that Manning was actually talking to, and he even admitted that himself (or herself or whatever he/she is).

You can hang him out to dry all you want when he's safely back on our soil.
You people are intent on making sure he never comes home.

Why is it that effing no-one possesses real ethics?

What a bunch of weak minded jellyfish this nations citizens has become.
- Pathetic grovelling sock puppets beholden to foreign interests -

And to think you could be bought with lies and narrative so easily.

"He's a shite smearer"
"Oh well that's it then, send him to the gallows"

Sell out a fellow citizen without anyone even supporting him having the right to defend himself?

He'll never be allowed a fair trial do you realise this;
IS ANYONE HERE AUSTRALIAN?
He won't be allowed to defend himself in open court.
- They'll say its a matter of national security -

I feel sorry for Julian Assange being born Aussie.
Sorry for all the rest of you that would lick America's balls.

Well said AC, Well said.

I know, sometimes one does get fed up with the whinie PC crowd. These people are being led by the nose by criminals who don't want their secret evil doings exposed.

Australia has had it's fair share of evil Secrets over the last 100 years too. That's why the 30 year rule & the sealed for ever Documents.

WIKILEAKS THREATENS COURT ACTION - ATTEMPTING TO CENSOR JOURNALISTS' FREEDOM OF SPEECH

In a move to prevent real journalists from doing to Wikileaks what Wikileaks does every day to democratic governments.
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Reported January 7, 2019 http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wikileaks-emails-journalists-with-97-false-and-defamatory-claims-to-avoid-in-reporting-on-founder-julian-assange/

Wikileaks emailed journalists with a list of around 100 “false and defamatory” statements about its founder/publisher Julian Assange after claiming efforts to defame him had “reached a new nadir”.

It said the number of “false and defamatory” claims made against Assange had “accelerated” since his internet access at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he has lived for more than six years, was cut off last year.

This rise was “perhaps because of an incorrect view that Mr Assange, due to his grave personal circumstances, can no longer defend his reputation”, it said in the email sent out to journalists.

Before listing 97 “false and defamatory” claims about Assange and Wikileaks itself, the email concluded: “The purpose of this list is to aid the honest and accurate and to put the dishonest and inaccurate on notice.”

It is believed that the list originally contained 140 claims, but the version published by Wikileaks today had some sections taken out.

[Wikileaks'] email was originally marked as “NOT FOR PUBLICATION” but was later made public by Wikileaks after being leaked.