I agree with Garry: the legitimacy of any grouping of people is gained by their moral conduct.
It can also be lost if they turn their backs to morality.
In any case, what have the declarations of others to do with one's legitimacy or otherwise?

And Dear Garry, Moshe Dayan was a very immoral person, an antique-robber whose real motivation in the 1967 occupation was to conquer antique-rich lands so he can increase his (illegal) backyard antique collection. He was never interested in Arabs or Jews, only in treasures. http://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-the-defense-minister-who-stole-antiquities-1.5378810

Now as for the people who now call themselves "Palestinians", they only began to identify themselves as such in the 1970's.
Nevermind, now they say that they want to have their own state and any group of people who live in a contiguous stretch of land should be able to have their independence if so they wish, provided that their land will not be used to attack their neighbours. The problem is, that the "Palestinians" seem to currently be unable to live in peace with their neighbour, Israel.

"There was no 'Palestinian people' at the time of the Balfour Declaration. The people living in "Palestine" were subjects of the Ottoman Empire and had been for 400 years."

"The ratification of the United Nations Charter in 1945 at the end of World War II placed the right of self-determination into the framework of international law and diplomacy. ... By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development. "

Are you saying that because of Israel's right to declare itself a nationalist apartheid state that the rights enshrined under the UN charter don't apply to people living anywhere that Israel declares is within its borders?

Well if that's what your saying, then you're full of shite mate.
Those rights existed in 1945 before the State of Israel did came into existence.

And the Balfour declaration you so often play like a broken violin clearly states "...It being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may predjudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."

What do you think were dumb?
Illiterate?
That we'll just keep coming back for more of the crap you spoon feed us without checking?

How do you think it is that you can establish a 'Jewish state' without predjudicing the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities living there?

What are you mentally challenged or something?

Your Balfour Declaration is worthless in my opinion.
- Like trying to argue for the old testament when the rest of the world moved onto the new testament.

The right to self determination David.
Try to remember that next time you quote the UN.

And by the way, anti-semitic would mean the arabs wouldn't it, since they are semitic people and well, the Ashkenazi Jews arent are they?

And you can stick your Anti-Zionism is Anto-Semitism crap too.
No government on the planet is free from criticism.

Seems we have a different understanding of what constitutes ‘legitimacy’, David. Mandates and UN articles in my book don’t create legitimacy when they are imposed on people against their will.

Your questioning whether I’ve made “deliberate attempts to mislead and deceive” is a quite a surprise. Still, if your question was based on anything that I’ve written, then you are free to identify such material. Same goes for the ‘more memory lapses’ of mine. I must be in a bad way … I can’t even remember what they were.

Have a nice day, David.

It was all based on Biblical bullsh1t anyway.
David

Dear David,

«It was all based on Biblical bullsh1t anyway.»

That would have been nice, but the leaders in question do not in fact follow the teachings of the bible, they only use it as pretext for their nationalism. The bible sets conditions for owning the land, conditions which are largely unmet! Israeli leaders seem to selectively only believe in the book of Joshua (which is about the conquest of the land by the Israelites upon returning from Egypt)!

#Gary

You are at it again:
"Seems we have a different understanding of what constitutes ‘legitimacy’, David. Mandates and UN articles in my book don’t create legitimacy when they are imposed on people against their will."

The Mandate was created in 1920. The UN was created in 1945.

The "Palestinians" were created in 1964 when the PLO Charter came into being

More attempts to deceive and mislead.

Give up mate.