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Hashemite rule in Jordan on collision course with Trump and Israel : Comments

By David Singer, published 17/4/2019

Transjordan (renamed Jordan in 1950) has always been the key to resolving competing territorial claims by both Arabs and Jews in former Palestine.

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Wouldn't you love to see that happen.
David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 8:19:51 AM
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It seems to me that David (Singer)’s article accepts that ultimately the legitimacy of the modern state of Israel comes from decisions made after WWI by the international community. While he does mention the Balfour Agreement, he does not mention that the Palestinian people themselves at that time rejected the Balfour Agreement and have continued to do so ever since.

To me it’s simple: it is the inhabitants of a country who confer legitimacy … not world powers.
Posted by Garry in Liffey, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 9:28:48 AM
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Trump will handle it.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:39:01 AM
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#Gary

There was no "Palestinian people" at the time of the Balfour Declaration. The people living in "Palestine" were subjects of the Ottoman Empire and had been for 400 years.

The Mandate for Palestine document clearly distinguished between Jews and "the existing non- Jewish communities" in Palestine.

The 51 member nations of the League of Nations respectfully disagreed with your opinion and conferred international legitimacy on the Jewish people to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in their biblical and ancient Homeland.

Get over it and get on with life...
Posted by david singer, Thursday, 18 April 2019 8:40:18 PM
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Ah, to be sure! I agree with you 100% David. There was not a Palestinian people! Just like the Irish people didn’t exist back there during Easter, 1916?

Moshe Dayan said that ways had to be found of living with the Arabs. Jews couldn’t overcome the hatred and hostility of the Arabs, he said... living together couldn’t be achieved “by Phantoms and Centurions”. The task according to Dayan, was “...how to live together [...] with the Arabs, without mastering them, without imposing yourself on them”.

Of course Dayan’s were the thoughts of the conqueror.

I remember hearing him admit that he/they took Palestine by force of arms.

Mao said something like ‘power grows out of the barrel of a gun’. I would say to you, David, that ‘legitimacy’ does not.

Have a Happy Easter, David – Garry.
Posted by Garry in Liffey, Sunday, 21 April 2019 8:43:35 AM
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#Garry

Israel was attacked by force of arms after six Arab States illegally invaded the newly declared State of Israel in Palestine with the intent of driving the Jews living there into the sea. Israel repelled that invasion by force of arms.

Israel's legitimacy was created by the Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the UN Charter

More memory lapses Garry or are you engaging in deliberate attempts to deceive and mislead?
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 21 April 2019 7:15:06 PM
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