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It's not a Blokesworld after all : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 22/9/2005

Melinda Tankard Reist argues the 'Blokesworld Live' event is not harmless fun.

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O.T.T.

Thank you for your post.

I was savagely bashed and raped (1993) by two males (strangers in the street). But that does not make me generalise across all males. I do no think that all men are potential rapists (as the radical feminist sexual assault counsellors promote). Rather, I think that all people (male, female, children) have the potential to be raped. That is quite a different philosophical thrust.

Rape is not about sex. Rape is about power, control and violence +++.
The victim's sexual organs are the vehicle for same.

My previous husband bashed me for 13 years. That does make me hate or distrust all men. I married a sociopath. Simple as that.

Like yourself, I have had to be treated for anxiety and depression - and also panic attacks - all the legacy of violent sexual assault.

Watching Blokesworld does not cause this sort of stuff. People who are sexually violent will always be sexually violent - they do not need porn or shows such as Blokesworld as a trigger. As I said, sexual violence is not about sex.

I hope that you are able to develop a trusting relationship with a male one day. We celebrated our ninth wedding anniversary resterday - a wonderful 9 years.

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Thursday, 29 September 2005 6:13:41 PM
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This whole thing is about power.

The prospect of men reclaiming a public voice to just be men cannot be tolerated. Sure there are some base and banal aspects to being masculine (and feminine for that matter) but for the most part we are pretty harmless in our tendencies. Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

Funny thing is that when its done quietly, out of overt public focus, it goes by with scarcely a mention.

Public expression would challenge the place to where the pendulum has swung. The pendulum seems to be in a place that pretty much sanctions the un-abridged right of women to just be women, with the attendant misandry that quite often emerges from equally banal aspects of women.

This is a game of politics. All the rationalisations, sociological and behavioural ruminations on this thread (this one included) are just a bit of noise to pad out the rather obvious... the battle of the sexes and the gender war foot soldiers are fighting over turf.

As a side note, why do people have such deep issues about the human body? Why is society so incredibly hung up? Why does it so rigidly have such a negative and ugly view of:
1. the human body
2. nakedness
3. sex
4. physical beauty

Why do gender politicians and progandists use the human body and such an essential part of the human condition namely sex to demonise?

Why do they have such a hard time contextualising?

Sexual repression? Denial of the natural self?
Posted by trade215, Saturday, 1 October 2005 3:20:49 PM
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What can i say at first i thougth the show would be tammed but after reading about blokesworld and having a good look into what goes on i was rather put off, i wonderer what the organiser of the show would think if it was theire wife girlfriends sister or daugthers performing at these events and if they would still feel the same if us women organised events with naked males and males strip shows and exibits hey girls maybe we should have our own womensworld what do you think ?
Posted by angrypie, Sunday, 2 October 2005 10:39:49 AM
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Sorry Kalweb, I disagree with some of your arguments. Rape IS about sex. The rapist doesn't look at a potential victim and think 'I'd like to bash and control her". He thinks "I'd like to [blank] her" and if the woman rebuffs him, he then forces her to have sex by physical violence. Sex is the primary goal. Violence is the means to achieve it.

Some people think pornography is harmless, including girlie shows like Blokeworld. Porn is designed to stir up hormones [particularly male] Evidence in rape cases has often revealed that viewing porn had been a contributing factor in encouraging the rapist to attack his victim. So it is not harmless, and should be viewed accordingly.
Posted by Big Al 30, Sunday, 2 October 2005 7:23:43 PM
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Big Al 30

Thanks for you post. You may be ineterested in the following:

Ledray, L. E. (1986). "Recovering from Rape", Owl Books, New York. The author is a registered nurse (as I am) with a PhD. In discussing the role of sex and aggression in rape she says:

During a rape, sex is used as a weapon to intimidate,
control, and humiliate the victim. If rape was simply
sexually motivated, Las Vegas, which is surrounded by
legalized prostitution, would not have one of the highest
rape rates in the nation, which, according to police, it
does (1986, p. 195).

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 2 October 2005 8:42:16 PM
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Kalweb, despite the author's qualifications, I have been around enough football and other clubs to hear what young men think on the subject of sex, and it's not what the PhD says.

I'm not surprised that there is plenty of rape in Las Vagas despite all the legalised prostitution. Young men don't like going to brothels, or paying for sex anywhere. It spells failure having to pay for "it". Bad for the ego.

They like to get it by sweet words, bulldust, winning over the target. If that doesn't work, they produce the strong-arm stuff. The point is, they want to "score" . They are predators, and they have to "score" on their terms. And that does NOT include paying money for it, so that virtually eliminates prostitutes from their sexual aims. Their goal s SEX. If they can't get it the "nice" way, they'll get it with rough-stuff. And that means rape, There's an old saying [which I will try to put as delicately as I can] "An erect penis has no conscience!"
Posted by Big Al 30, Monday, 3 October 2005 2:24:04 PM
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