<<On the contrary. I did not divert anything. I felt it important that the mistakes of the church be discussed not brushed aside. Many young people have stopped identifying themselves as Catholics for example.
This is not dumping on the church.>>

You replied to The Inspector who asked you to deal with the content of a Christian world view. You ignored that and went to child abuse and the church. This is fallacious reasoning, a red herring fallacy.

<<I'm not interested in your preaching to me. I would like a
discussion but it appears that is something that you
prefer not to have. You'd rather attack than discuss.
Fair enough. I shall leave you to it>>

Here again you refuse to deal with evidence of a Christian world view.

That’s a straw man – a false understanding of what I did. If you call that preaching, I suggest you become better informed.

I have NEVER attacked you in my posts but have attempted to direct you and me to a rational discussion. That cannot happen when you engage in erroneous reasoning.

Part of dealing with the content of a Christian World
View is also being able to discuss what people are
saying in a range of ways about the position of the
Christian World View on a variety of issues.
I merely mentioned one. There are so many we can talk
about. It should be of concern to us all what people
are saying and whether they can sufficiently locate
themselves with the Christian World View. One lady
in her 50s said: "But Jesus who I love and I talk to
and pray to and believe in doesn't act like Bishop X
and like a lot of those people who to me are just awful
people because they are so judgemental and holier than
thou and come out and damn people, and publicly.
Where's the God there?"

Relevance and behaviour of the church and its clergy
is therefore important in how the Christian World
View is being perceived by people. Validity and
relevance makes a big difference between full or
empty churches. The misuse of power was seen in the
botched attempts of dioceses to cover up sexual abuse,
the unequal treatment of men and women, particularly
the refusal to ordain women, physical abuse and
corporal punishment, often many years previously in
Catholic institutions and schools. Unjust treatment
from religious employers and dismissal from
employment over re-marriage without an annulment and the
list goes on. That's discussing Christian World View -
as Christians see it - and the issues that they face
on a daily basis. They can't just be ignored.

At least one wouldn't think so,

Foxy,

<<Part of dealing with the content of a Christian World
View is also being able to discuss what people are
saying in a range of ways about the position of the
Christian World View on a variety of issues.
I merely mentioned one. There are so many we can talk
about.>>

You've raised some excellent issues in this post.

I'd like to ask: What do you think are the 3 or 4 main beliefs that comprise a Christian world view?

I can see that you want this conversation to continue.

I prefer to let it all go and not argue with anyone's
personal beliefs.

Have a nice day.

Foxy,

<< I can see that you want this conversation to continue. I prefer to let it all go and not argue with anyone's personal beliefs.>>

That was NOT your attitude when you Posted by Foxy, Friday, 28 December 2018 4:10:37 PM. That was only yesterday - Friday.

What has caused you to change your mind?

David,

"How can you have faith when no less a person than a Cardinal of the Catholic Church has been found guilty in a court of law of crimes against alter boys."

Which Cardinal?