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Problems with the Proud Boys : Comments

By Jason Beale, published 30/11/2018

Apparently intended as a social men's group for Trump supporters, Proud Boys has since spread internationally.

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AC, spot on , it's the plan for the election , code-word Club Labor.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 30 November 2018 3:09:48 PM
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Toni,

Proud boys, Antifa, two sides of the same coin, except that Antifa is more violent.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 1 December 2018 9:42:56 AM
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//Proud boys, Antifa, two sides of the same coin//

Nah, the Proud Boys aren't just a bunch of regular or garden variety political extremists. Their views are truly bizarre, to their point where I think either they must all be barking mad, or it's a big joke that some people haven't got.

"“The second degree is that you join our religion, NoWanks, and you get a beating until you can name five breakfast cereals,” McInnes explained. “And third degree is obviously still NoWanks, and a tattoo.” If anyone “taps out” or can’t name five cereals (?) they’re out of the running. Again, this sounds a lot like rushing for a fraternity, especially the part about how the Second Degree initiation “has to be filmed if Gavin McInnes or a Proud Boy rep is not present.”

But NoWanks, McInnes’s anti-masturbation campaign, goes a few steps farther, and it’s just one of the bizarre, yet completely serious invasive lifestyle directives that he’s espoused. Starting in 2015, he pledged to (pretty much) stop masturbating and started imploring other men to join him in relinquishing the habit of jerkin’ the dirty dog. As he explains in a video for Rebel Media, playing with oneself is “hurting our marriage and it’s draining our lifeforce.”

XD

How delightfully mental.

Being beaten until you can name five breakfast cereals? I mean, why breakfast cereals? And masturbation 'draining our lifeforce'? Does this guy think he's the reincarnation of John Harvey Kellogg or something?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 1 December 2018 12:57:15 PM
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Just to maintain some perspective, those "smashed statues of Confederate war dead memorials" were not historic relics from the Civil War but were deliberately erected as a provocative way of "giving the finger" to to Civil Rights Movement underway at the time.

Why anybody would want to defend a classified politically violent group of avowed White Supremacists is odd but then suggesting it provides some sort of social balance is also hypocritical.
Posted by rache, Sunday, 2 December 2018 12:28:48 AM
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The Confederate war memorials were erected after the first US civil war (the second war is coming up) by the "Daughters of the Confederacy" who were intensely proud of the fight the South put up. They were not the only ones. Winston Churchill called the US civil war "the last war between gentlemen." Northern soldiers always saluted defeated Southern forces by presenting arms at surrender ceremonies. In Washington, during the official ceremony celebrating the end of the war, Abraham Lincoln ordered the band to play as the first song, "Dixie".

The Confederate war memorials symbolize for the South their proud military heritage and their unique southern identity. One of Texas most revered historical museum artifacts is a civil war state battle flag with over 200 bullet holes in it. I suppose rache would like that burned too? It is just odd how many of the USA's most heroic soldiers and their leaders came from the South. Chesty Puller (four Navy Crosses) , Audie Murphy, Carl Nimitz, Dwight D. Eisenhower, "American Sniper" Chris Kyle, and so many more that space prevents me from adding their proud names. Even today, a noticeably disproportionate number of US armed forces personnel, black and white, hail from the South.

Unlike rache, I come from a poor but polite society where desecrating war memorials and graves is considered about as low as abducting women and children, and then raping them and murdering them. But rache is probably another poorly socialised millennial who thinks that nothing is sacred, and anything can be used to make your left wing political point. Although rache would be outraged if white people attacked revered symbols of any minority culture, white culture can be spat on with impunity. And then he wonders why the proud boys of the USA organise and retaliate?
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 2 December 2018 3:08:34 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree with Tony Lavis that the culture of the Proud Boys is "truly bizarre."

Last I heard, the Proud Boys culture believes in murdering, beheading, and crucifying anybody who is not a Proud Boy. Proud Boys consider that females are so inferior to men that they should be considered minors. Women married to Proud Boys must supply sex on demand, and may not leave the house without their husbands permission. Proud Boy culture allows proud Boys to beat their wives, and even specifies the length of the rod which a Proud Boy may use to do it.

Proud Boys do not believe in democracy and believe that secular law should be subject to Proud Boy law. Proud boys believe that anybody who criticizes them should be murdered. Females from Proud Boy areas may not marry non Proud Boys. Proud Boys also believe that anyone who does not want to be a Proud Boy any longer should be murdered.

Proud Boys believe in genital mutilation, child brides, amputations for crime, gender discrimination, honour killings, and death sentences for adultery, homosexuality, apostasy, and blasphemy.

You are right, Tony, Proud Boys are dangerous, total wacko nut jobs. They have no place in western society.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 2 December 2018 3:28:33 AM
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