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Religious schools and discrimination : Comments

By Kuranda Seyit, published 23/10/2018

However, the call by Sheikh Taj Aldin Hilali, a Sydney based cleric, that independent Islamic schools should not allow homosexual teachers to work in their schools has opened up a can of worms.

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So what you are saying Alan is that the only acceptable way to be religious is to be secular? Let the state, or the majority, determine what is right and what is wrong? Isn't that really an anti-secular, and anti-liberal-democratic point of view?
Posted by GrahamY, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:20:58 PM
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I think it's time for you to step out of the rainforest. Your no longer a Baboon Al.
Queensland is an unhealthy environment for a certain type.

The article.

"Need to know basis, if you don't need to know then don't bother even asking."

But the ideal world has long gone, replaced with a FORCED tollerence of homosexuality.
It maybe that the teaching staff at Islamic schools are a mix of the broader community, but similarities end there. The student mix is very tightly drawn from the Muslim community.
As a whole, the Muslim communities are emphatically heterosexual.
My strong advice to the gay rights terrorists, is ready yourselves for war.
Homosexuality will not be tolerated even with forced displays of obedience.

For the State to force obedience to the immorality of homosexuality onto Muslims, will not end well for anyone, especially homosexuals.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:49:24 PM
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where are the big Placard waving Demonstrations from the people that support the moslims who are Gay. Ha ha ha ha ha. I like to see that. ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 3:54:53 PM
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For a very interesting take on this topic and how toxic christian religionists in the USA are using their political power to demonize any and everyone who fits into the LGBTQ category why not check out the essay by Brynn Tannehill titled For LGBTQ People Under Trump, The Levers of Power Are Blocked.

One of the outfits involved in this project is the Alliance For Defending "Freedom" which some defenders of civil liberties classify as a hate group.
It is interesting to note that Tony Abbott gave one (or possibly two) speeches to this outfit when he was in the USA. And maybe Kevin Andrews and Cory Bernadi did too. This outfit was once defended in a essay featured in Quadrant magazine, the author of which also stated that the "laws" of HIS cultic "god" always TRUMP-ed those of the secular state.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 6:07:51 PM
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Well, like him or not, Sheikh Hilali is correct in saying that schools are supposed to provide an environment of learning and culture and not be a club for those seeking to satisfy their desires¹.

This should apply equally to ALL sexual desires, regardless of orientation.

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¹ Interestingly, the latter is one of the best descriptions for "university".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 6:16:18 PM
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No Graham, as someone who spent most of his formative years in Catholic education!

I'm not saying that going the secular route is the only way. Any more than one can say our armed forces must be taken from a particular religious demographic or hold to a particular religious view. Refuse pork or beef or meat milk and eggs?

What I'm saying is, if marital status or your sexuality is nobody's business but yours and you are employed on merit and possibly from the same religious indoctrination? Then It should be merit-based excellence and little else.

And given that's so? In one or two generations, even Islamic scholars will be better educated!? Come from a much more knowledgeable cohort and able to look with objective eyes at the actual evidence as opposed to indoctrinated MAN-MADE ideology.

At which time they'll probably arrive at the same view as Alan Sauders and his team of highly credentialed Geneticists and see with their own eyes, through their electron microscopes that there is not just one gay gene but at least two peculiar to gay folk alone and three other probabilities.

Then and only then will these indoctrinated, religious bigots be able to see that God Made all of us, be we left or right handed, black, white or brindle, gay or straight!

And finally be able to let go of these purely belief derived prejudices and just focus on best education outcomes without loading up our kids with patently false, man-made philosophies/medieval belief systems, with no foundation in truth!

[In some countries, it's still off with his head and or you can rape a woman out of lesbianism? Or turn a straight guy into a queer, with similar barberry? And not doable without the required sexual bias being there in the first place? Regardless of the denials and or persecution of fellow gays out of the closet? Or butching it up by being more of a man than your alleged contemporaries?]

Until then a don't ask don't tell position, the lesser of two evils?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 23 October 2018 6:40:47 PM
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