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Using the burka: Boris Johnson’s bid for popularity : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 15/8/2018

An independent panel will be convened (independence being in the eye of the beholders), which might decide to refer Johnson to the party's board. From there, the power of expulsion can come into play.

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CHERFUL, well, having a bad hair day I see.
Good to see you agree pretty much with most of what I say.
You can learn a lot about a person from a single act, which is indicative of their mindset.
I do believe that the followers of Islam, were/are of a weaker mindset than the rest of the population.
After having learned about only a few teachings and rituals I am convinced that the true devout followers of this 'cult' are very sick little puppies.
Cherful, I'm not sure what point your trying to make but you did not challenge me on the 'slut shaming'.
If you truly believe that the females of today are not 'out of control', then there is no hope for the fairer sex.
I don't care about the antics of some extreme cult, until it becomes a threat to me or my family.
Those who expect a person (men) to change their natural instinct are so far out of touch with the real world, it's another reason we're in this mess.
I'll bet your one of the loony left who does not believe that women are a 'major' reason or problem in the debate about rape and so on.
You probably refute the word 'attractive' as being the cause for men to become 'attracted' to certain females.
I would like to see a survey where the females make themselves look ugly or un-attractive over a period of time and see how many attacks and the nature of those attacks would be.
C'mon, get real, todays females are just not relative any more.
They want to be men because they believe they are as good as men.
Well they're, not and they know it, and that's the kicker.
They can't stand it.
They want to be like men, so what's the first thing they attempt?
Getting drunk and out of control and carrying on like sluts.
It's as if this generation were the first to discover sex, so they are going at it like sex starved rabbits.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 19 August 2018 2:41:15 AM
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Oh dear ALTRAV,
How misguided you are about things.
A slut is somebody who will have sex with any member of the opposite sex who is available even for money.
I think most men fit that description. So they are the real,sluts.

The silly extreme left wing feminists who march around the streets with members of the Islamic religion,
whose leaders are the most Fascist(authoritarian) leaders in the world have seriously lost the plot.

What feminists demand or don’t demand makes no difference to the the 3 things I decided a long time ago that I wanted for my daughters and their daughters going forward.
1. Equal rights before the law.
2. Control over their own bodies and fertility
3. And money of their own, so they don’t have to sleep on the street with their children
when their husband acts like a bastard.

I needed no feminist group to tell me this. These three things are set in stone in my mind and I
will fight with everything I have, to keep those rights for my daughters and the women of this country.

Men better than women, don’t make me laugh.
Women are doing much better than men in all the universities. And it is well known by world organisations, that if you educate and help the.women in poor backward societies, everything changes for the better in that society. If you educate the men, nothing changes, because basically men are happy acting like bullies wanting to control all the females. Also men have a big area in the front of their brain that is devoted only to sex. This makes them stupider and dumber than women, because women actually have normal brain cells in that area.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 19 August 2018 7:35:47 PM
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Cherful,unlike you I do not subscribe to the current state of the social interactions of people as, 'The Battle of the Sexes'.
What you contend is adversarial.
This is not a healthy condition for humans to interact.
I believe in the 'natural order' of things.
We have arrived at this way of life with the benefit of time.
We have developed over time.
Nothing has ever been achieved by forcing change outside it's normal rate of development.
Cherful, your vision for your daughters is fine, but you did not make any reference to them being promiscuous or carrying on like todays females, ie;drugged up, drunken sluts.
Or all three.
I do not disagree with your description of men.
That is the point.
Men have not changed through the ages, and that is a good thing.
We know what to expect of them.
Look at what happens when things change too quickly.
They nearly always change for the worst.
Today's females are undisciplined and lost their way.
You speak of the three things you wish to instill in them.
No-where did I see any mention of virtue and maturity.
The way life works is, for example, when I was young we always had 'chicks' who were happy to oblige us for sex.
These were referred to, in some circles,as sluts.
Then there were the 'good girls', who we traditionally ended up marrying.
There is absolutely no discord with the statement that men are 'sluts'.
We wore that tag with pride and the more we 'scored' the higher we moved up the ladder of peer respect.
It was not a game but a serious and natural drive which was highly regarded amongst the young men graduating on through puberty and onto manhood.
It was akin to a milestone in the development of a young mans life.
Can you honestly feel the same adulation and respect for your daughters if you saw them drunk, passed out on the road or up against a wall in some lane getting reamed whilst she's semi conscious or bloody near comatose from excess drugs or liquor?
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 20 August 2018 3:46:25 AM
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What makes you assume my daughters aren’t virtuous, in fact they are very intelligent,
kind hearted, human beings.

It comes as a shock to a lot of men that women are actually human beings. Men prefer to judge woman either as the virgin mother or as a slut. Most women are neither of those things, they are firstly human beings with all the complexities of human beings.

They are not their genitals, which is what men like to judge them by, giving no thought to them as human beings, far more complex than their sexual organs.

I don’t have any great admiration about men and their number of sexual encounters.
My Dad whom I take care of in his old age, would boast of how successful his life was because of the 22women he had, had sex with.
I said to him “Dad I don’t judge success in my life by how many people I might have slept with. To me that means nothing, I judge my success in life by the fine people my children and their children are and all the work I do to make sure they are happy and successful.

Also the female X chromosome is the chromosome that provides all the genetic coding that makes a human being.
A woman has a double XX chromosome, and a man has an XYchromosone.
It is well known in laboratories, that if you even slightly interfere with the X chromosome in an unborn baby, the baby will be born severely disabled. If however you damage the male Y chromosome the baby can still be born as a perfect functioning human female.
This is known as the Eve principal. Which actually proves that the female is the original blueprint and the male is just added on to make a male.

Still, men proclaim themselves as the original and best, whilst treating women as inferior. But it is actually the inferiority of the male that makes them act this way. Because they are too thick to realise they are thick.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 20 August 2018 7:40:13 PM
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Dear CHERFUL,

You Go Girl! ;-)
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 20 August 2018 8:02:15 PM
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Cherful (and Foxy),
No you don't.
You can prattle on all you like about men and women.
It has no relevance here.
You find yourself sensitised towards women because you have daughters.
Your comments about 'most' women is moot because the evidence is clear and in your face at every turn.
You can be as defensive as you like but you did not answer my questions.
YOU are expected to protect your children, so don't go seeking a pat on the back for doing your job.
What you may or may not know is exactly what they get up to when they are out having a 'good time'.
So to recap, according to the evidence there are far more promiscuous women out there today than when your father and I were 'on the prowl'.
You say, you are displeased with your father for having had 22 women in his life.
We don't see this as a bad thing, but you and your elk do.
That makes you and co. the disgusting and filthy minded ones.
You are maligning and denigrating your father and your daughters by your comments.
The do-gooders of today don't want to hear the truth, they simply want to push an unrealistic ideology.
As for you, show your father some respect.
If your too much of a pansy to hear of a very important part of his life and who he is/was, at least have the guts to simply listen and 'look' interested, because quite frankly I am incensed at your kind of judgemental mentality.
The other thing you should do as well is instill, virtue and maturity in your daughters.
In todays world where marshmellows like you raise girls to be their own masters.
You have no idea or control over who they are and what they get up to once their out of your sight.
Finally the term 'slut' came to be as a direct reference to 'loose women'.
You may choose to include men.
That's your choice.
We certainly don't mind, but it just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 1:30:20 AM
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