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False narrative haunts PLO and UN as Trump courts Arab States : Comments

By David Singer, published 6/7/2018

'Despite the burden of regional issues, there are things that cannot be weighed with gold and humanitarian aid, or solutions that try to cut from a more than 100-year-old historical conflict.'

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It really doesn't matter how many times you pedal this crap David.
Some people just don't believe there's any moral right to build a country wherever you want and attempt to kill or drive off all the existing people living there.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245869

You scream victimhood from the Nazi's but really your lots no better.
http://youtu.be/e8icC2BA_O8
You actually have a lot in common with the Nazi's, only the people in the Warsaw Ghetto and Auchwitz etc. were probably treated better than those who've lived in Gaza for generations?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 6 July 2018 11:25:31 AM
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The turn of world events isn't going in favour of the so-called Palestinians and its only going to get worse for them. Iran is in abject retreat from Syria and its economy is already suffering under Trump's sanctions. Growing objections within Iran to the regime's overseas adventurism may force a total retreat.

At the same time, Saudi's fear of Iran is pushing it into the willing arms of Israel such that its previous support for the 'Palestinians' is no longer automatic. Ditto Egypt. Turkey is their new hope but I doubt that'll pan out either.

They, the Palestinians will rue the day they decided to reject Oslo. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 6 July 2018 2:29:55 PM
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I wondered when Dave would reappear,what happened did the truth put you off or did you have to wait for instructions from your paymasters in Israel
What a load of bunk you put out on here, Israel is a fascist state who learned well from Adolf,the PM is a crook,the Army are as bad as the SS but dear old Dave will defend anything they do
Your creditably is shot Dave just like the Palestinian protesters
Posted by John Ryan, Friday, 6 July 2018 3:05:03 PM
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The first mutterings of Zionism that I can find date from 1802/3. The first written, as in book form, from 1862.
“The intellectual ideals which made possible the transition from integrationism to the Zionist revolution were articulated by a number Jewish thinkers in the second half of the 19th century. Moses Hess (1812 – 75), like Hegel before him, argued that history was a dialectal process and that the world was entering an age of maturity and reconciliation.
In his book ‘Rome and Jerusalem’ (1682) he argued that nationlism was a natural historical growth . . .”
“Leon Pinsker (1821– 91 argued in ‘Auto-Emancipation’ (1882) that anti-semitism was not a temporary phenomenon but an ‘inherited aberration of the human mind’ . . .”
— From Adel Safty’s ‘Might over Right’, How the Zionists Took Over Palestine’.
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Posted by petere, Friday, 6 July 2018 5:35:41 PM
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contd:
Theodor Herzl (1860– 1904) talked up Zionism, the need for a homeland and began teaching a reconstructed ‘Modern Hebrew’, which where it existed did so in religious teaching and in worship. (Today Zionists tend to claim that Hebrew had never died out but was much used amongst the widely dispersed Jews) As fanciful as most claims made by the Zionists.

All this of course dispels the nonsense that the colonising of Palestine had anything to do with the holocaust as the early European Jews began arriving in 1890.

Britain, desperate for support/allies in WWI promised both the Jews and the Arabs/Palestinians a homeland and self-rule in return for their support. The Balfour Declaration in 1917 in which GB made noises promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine was in all respects illegal.

Palestine was not theirs to give, they had no rights under international law and the Palestinians, obviously, had rights ahead of anybody else, British and Jews included.

The Brits armed and trained the Zionists, encouraged them to set up low level government structures while preventing the Palestinians from doing anything similar.

The Brits cheated, lied, murdered and betrayed the Palestinians while building up the Zionists/Jews.

For a concise, documented account of ongoing betrayal of the Palestinians, I recommend Adel Safty’s ‘Might over Right’, How the Zionists Took Over Palestine. It is without any shadow of doubt the best account that I have read in the past seventeen years.
Posted by petere, Friday, 6 July 2018 5:36:21 PM
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There is never a need to waste too much time with Israelite supremacists. According to Singer -

.....................There were no "Israelis" or "Palestinians" 95 years ago when the preamble to the Mandate for Palestine declared: ….................

All you have to do is quote article seven of said mandate back at them.

…...The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine..…..

Only an Israelite supremacist could say Palestinians did not exist when it's there in black and white in a document that they use time and time again to justify the existence of a country whose borders at no time in history incorporated Jerusalem. It clearly states that Jews were to become Palestinian, nowhere does it mention that Palestine is to become either Israel or Judea.

In that same preamble that Singer loves to quote, like all other Israelite supremacists, he overlooks -

…......it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.....

I think a reasonable person might say that denying the overwhelming majority the right to self-determination is a clear case of prejudice.
Posted by unravel, Saturday, 7 July 2018 3:07:37 AM
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