The nation needs services and infrastructure if it remains a nation!

And the citizens need to collectively fund that through some mutual obligation compact.
What it doesn't need are unproductive parasites getting rich from the huge money churn that is current tax structure!
Nor do we need leaning billionaire multinationals/local millionaires, earning profits here and so structuring their business model as to avoid, air and reasonable tax, the price of earning an income or profits in any democracy or open free market!
We need to reduce spending without cutting services! And the only way is to eliminate the fee demanding middleman!
All our social services must be supplied in not for profit paradigms. As we now do in aged care by funding the means-tested client then allowing various service providers to compete for the aged care service provider.
And could be replicated as a service provision model in education and health!?
Assisted by far greater regional autonomy, along with the formal recognition of local government.
And in combination halve the social security budget while increasing spending on unmet need.
TBC. Alan B.

one thing for sure and that is 1 billion a year to fund the marxist dogmas at the abc is crimminal.

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So how do we pay for our service model without tanking the economy or bankrupting the citizenry? And can we produce a model that eliminates the fee collecting unproductive middleman? All while incorporating an unavoidable tax collecting system the wealthy and privilege will gladly pay?
Well, yes we can. Given the top tax paid in actual real money to the ATO, by any CORPORATE entity, the year ending 2017. Paid as their share of consolidated revenue, topped out at 13%! And that one in four paid NONE!
Then a flat rate of 15% paid by everyone above a reasonable tax-free threshold, say $37,000.00? Would reduce the tax paid by ordinary PAYE workers by at least 4%!
As well as permanently remove bracket creep from a highly convoluted money churn!
And completely obviate the need for reconciliation, returns or any compliance costs! OR AVOIDANCE!
Which would be entirely counterproductive and add an entirely unnecessary, additional cost burden. Thus through simply paying their tax as a flat rate above the threshold, they could return former tax compliance costs, back to the bottom line as an averaged 7%, thus paying an effective rate of 8%!
All while increasing the revenue stream by no less than 2% and as much as 15% in the case of the one in four multinational avoiders, who reportedly have avoided billions and for years!?
As for Australian national who use various tax havens to avoid our tax? They should be disendorsed as Australian citizens and be asked to follow their money. Ostensibly to make room for the rush of fully cashed up self-funded retirees, who along with high tech manufacturers, would want to relocate here along with their healthy bank balances!
TBC. Alan B.

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It's not just taxes that must be reduced but economy-killing energy costs! Both in the factory and on the farm! Alleviated by lifting all the current bans or rules and regulations that prohibit or prevent, peaceful purpose nuclear energy.
Here I'm advocating for MSR and thorium and using MSR to reprocess other folk's nuclear waste to earn annual billions and enough to more than pay for several dozen CLEAN, SAFE, MASS PRODUCED, factory-built reactors, that don't need water sources to operate.
Therefore can be trucked to where we want or need them. And in so doing reduce energy prices to lower than 3 cents per KwH?
It's clearly not taxes currently ruining this economy, manufacturing or farming in this country, but massive ginormous energy prices! And pettifogging pollies, to gormless or financially conflicted, to do anything about it!?
Alan B.

Great topic, yet the answer is simple:

Taking things from others without their consent, is immoral.
The bible calls it "Thou shalt not steal".

So what if you have constructive ideas, say you like to build a nation? First you need to ask and receive permission from those involved!

Now with money there is a catch: it was printed by the state.

Had we been permitted to conduct our lives without the money that the state prints, then it would be fair for the state to say: "if you want to use my money, then there are conditions, strings attached - and taxation is one of them". Don't like the conditions - don't use the money that they print. Simple.

Had this been the case, then the author's claims can be thrown out the window - why not take from the rich and give to the poor or for any other purpose, after all you agreed to the conditions that come with the currency (including in principle foreign currencies by means of international agreements).

The problem of course, is that a multitude of laws forbid us from living outside the framework of state-printed money, practically forcing us to use the state's money and all that goes with it, taxation thus being only one of the least of the state's immoral atrocities.

I like to cooperate, I like to pay my taxes in order to help the less-fortunate in my community - but I, and all others, deserve to be asked first whether we want to be part of it all, and we were not!

David L.

Seriously? I can't believe you write this crap, let alone think it.

This prevelant idea you mouth, is not original.

Just as a reminder, none like the rich have the huge ability of dodging taxation, while at the same, the ability to lobby government for a bigger slice of the pie cooked by the less well off.

Your unbelievable!