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Cynicism about Jesus as an Easter 'treat' : Comments

By Spencer Gear, published 4/4/2018

Don't be so ridiculous as to expect Australian secular people to support the original meaning of Easter. We are into chocolate and not that religious stuff!

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This man allegedly walked on water and fed a multitude from a single basket of fish and bread. And included in later revised scripture to make the man fit the predicted mould of the (miracle performing) Messiah? XXX The catechism and stations of the cross, endlessly repeated, unproven hearsay/brain washing! XXX In endlessly reviewed, revised and edited Christian teachings, resurrection could just as easily mean reincarnation. XXX Even so, Easter has been, well and truly commercialised! And has lost every element of former sacred reverence. With sport and betting on outcomes (money changers in the temple) prolific. XXX Why even one parliament sat on Easter Friday just to get a highly contentious bill forced through the house? XXX And here we were thinking, we lived in a fair dinkum democracy. XXX Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 4 April 2018 11:24:45 AM
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Its really quite simple.
Unless anyone, including all of the "expert authorities" quoted by Spencer, actually knew or met "Jesus" up close and personal in a living-breathing-feeling human form, and actually witnessed and touched his "resurrected body" (which was of course impossible because there was no such "body") then everything one says and "believes" re all of the entirely fictional stories about Saint Jesus of Galilee are just plain and simply NOT TRUE.

The author of the references below pointed out that unless one has indisputable solid documentary evidence of which there is NONE. And even more importantly PHOTOGRAPHS of any/all of the famous "historical" figures featured in the multivarious "religious" myths of humankind, especially in the case of "Jesus" then everything that one says is mere conjecture and hearsay.

http://www.dabase.org/up-5-1.htm
http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/bloodsac.html
http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/exochrist.html

This essay describes the differences and SIMILARITIES of proponents of
both atheism and the usual dim-witted "theists".
http://www.beezone.com/AdiDa/nirvanasara/chapter4.html

This references provides an interesting explanation of how postmodernism relates to Western philosophy altogether, and its dim-witted "religion".
http://www.adidaupclose.org/FAQs/postmodernism2.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 1:36:54 PM
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What a bore! Easter, Christmas, Anzac Day or Australia Day: there is always someone who wants say the same things about these events every year that have been said in the past and will continue to be said in the future by people with very little to think about.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 3:03:45 PM
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As an atheist I have no real problems with people not calling Easter eggs by their traditional name as I seldom buy them.

However, I have a problem with often the same companies raising the price of their products by paying to make them Halal certified.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 5:52:04 PM
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Daffy Duck.

I've read your links. You know what? At the end of all that verbiage the conclusion it makes is a rejection of the belief in the resurrection of Christ.

By the Christian, it is to be accepted as fact, or treated as a lie, and the whole belief in Christianity abandoned.

Simple!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 9:33:47 PM
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diver dan,

The issue is not 'by the Christian, it is to be accepted as fact'. If the resurrection is not found to be fact for friend and foe to discover, it's a farce.

The apostle Paul warned about this: "if Christ has not been raised, what we preach doesn’t mean anything. Your faith doesn’t mean anything either. More than that, we would be lying about God" (1 Cor 15:14-15 ).

Ancient historian & scholar of early Christianity, Professor N T Wright, who was cited in the article, also demonstrated the historical evidence for the fact of the resurrection:

"All this brings us face to face with the ultimate question. The empty tomb and the meetings with Jesus are, in combination, the only possible explanation for the stories and beliefs that grew up so quickly among his followers. How, in turn, do we explain them? In any other historical enquiry, the answer would be so obvious that it would hardly need saying: the best explanation is that it happened that way. All the signposts are pointing in one direction....

"Christianity appeals to history, and to history it must go. And the question of Jesus's resurrection, though it may in some senses burst the boundaries of history, also remains within them....

"Faith in Jesus risen from the dead transcends but includes what we call history, and science, for that matter. Faith of this sort is not blind belief which rejects all history and science" (Only Love Believes: The Resurrection of Jesus and the Constraints of History, Wright 2014).

Wright explains his reasons in his 800pp investigation, 'The Resurrection of the Son of God'(2003).

This is in the realm for all historians to investigate, as long as they deal with all of the evidence available.

Halal certification was not the topic of this article. Why don't you write a piece with that focus?
Posted by OzSpen, Thursday, 5 April 2018 7:48:57 AM
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