About the pressure, hysteresis and time constant@wind speed read here 74.4.3/4 and 5. Notice the time constant is given as 71 seconds in air at 0.5 M/S. https://books.google.com.au/books?id=sKnMBQAAQBAJ&pg=SA74-PA9#v=onepage&q&f=false

Wow Jennifer, you must have them worried,

To have so much slime sent to bog you down, so quickly, they must be scared stiff your work will wake up too many of the sleeping masses.

Good luck with it.

Rache, you make the ridiculous statement “It's not up to me to prove what has been generally and widely accepted as scientific fact, it's up to the deniers to convincingly disprove”
Your assertion is not widely accepted as scientific fact, and there is no science to support it.The fraud promoters like yourself, who assert that global warming is human-caused should reference science to support their assertion.
There is no consensus to support your lie:. The link you supplied was to an article by the lying fraud suppoter Graham Readfern, who asserts a consensus supporting the climate fraud.
As to that: ." have done the math for you again, Grazza. The true length and breadth and with of your imagined “scientific consensus” is not 97.1%. It’s 0.3%. Oops4!
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/09/monckton-on-readfearn-a-journalist-with-a-grudge-is-a-mere-propagandist/

” To emphasise your ignorance, Rache, you use the terms “denier” and “contrarian”. There is no such thing as a “denier”, as the fraud promoters have no science to deny. A contrarian is a supporter of valid science and an opponent of climate fraud.

Hasbeen You are correct when you say "they must be scared stiff your work will wake up too many of the sleeping masses.". The trouble is that they are running out of viable distractions. While they try to avoid the impossible to defend thermometer incompatibilities and bad record keeping they expose yet another fact the ABC must have tried hard to ignore. That is the satellite record trend is showing that the Antarctic ice extent has been growing at 1.8 percent per decade. While a NASA study claims it has been gaining both mass and volume for thirty thousand years. I do not know how long it will take to cover the entire planet in ice but it must be stopped. The history of ice albedo feedback change that would parallel this ice growth shows that the planet must have been receiving more heat in the past to have been at a "Mann" style stability. https://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/s_plot_hires.png

Jennifer

Quote

“The last time it was this low was probably back in 1937. “

From a temperature point of view that does not make sense, there was a slight peak in temperature in 1937. Anecdotal discussions with Inuit people does not support such a claim, nor do early submarine records support such a view.

Jennifer, I would like to see a solid reference that the sea ice was as low, or lower in 1937 as in 2007 your reference doesn’t work. The lowest sea ice extent ever was recorded in 2012. Probably more importantly, about 80% of volume has been lost since 1980.

Graham Y

Quote:

“At least when the facts change, Jennifer changes her mind ANT”

I have acknowledged I was wrong in an earlier post in relation to the Eduard Toll.

I’m accused of gish galloping; there are something like 12,000 Journal articles published every year about climate change per Powell a few years ago; the research has been written by professional climate scientists. Yet, we are to take on board allegations that temperatures are not being accurately processed by the experts. All apex science related Agencies believe man induced climate change is happening. Many unrelated science disciplines support the science of climate change.

My points about the Arctic are about the effects of temperature. Jennifer’s article is about trying to create doubt in temperature data collated by professional people, what is happening in the environment supports what climate scientists/meteorologists are measuring in relation to temperature increase.

Bob Fernley-Jones

Pretty well every day I receive emails and face book references in relation to climate change, it is very difficult to keep up with the few references I receive daily. Most of my sources are not based in Australia. When contrarians provide references I generally do go to the site referred.

Those people wanting to know about Greenland should be thinking about the farms that were recently partly uncovered but have gone back under the ice again.
"As the Little Ice Age bore down upon the Nordic Settlement on Greenland, she called upon her Champion, Prince Henry Sinclair, and Templar Knights, to rescue 4,000 stranded farmers. These Greenland refugees were brought south to new homes with Native Tribes along the Eastern Seaboard of North America: New England."
http://marcopoloinseattle.com/wp/tag/henry-sinclair/

Ant You have that the wrong way around. ACORN and other such attempts exist because doubt in the data already exists. Jennifer is trying to this sad situation with the data by getting it more correctly understood and better documented.