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Checking sources should be as simple as ABC : Comments

By Jennifer Marohasy, published 20/2/2018

It would be ridiculous if some of the catastrophic global warming so often reported by experts via our ABC were just a consequence of a new method of recording temperatures!

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Jennifer, just give us one credible reason why the ice sheets on Greenland are melting at the present rate which is making both the fishermen and the farmers so happy.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 9:20:49 AM
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We learned some years after the fact, academics employed by the asbestos industry and big tobacco were telling their masters one thing and the public another and for decades!

Similarly, we're informed that the same thing has been occuring in the fossil fuel industry Jennifer, and for literal decades. As various academics have put more value on their grants or cash for comment than the facts, even as they accuse the 95% of their fellows of being frugal with the truth!?

Some of those irrefutable facts are. The climate is subject to normal cyclical variations.

When the sun wanes the joint cools sometimes ushering in an ice age of indeterminate length, with advancing glacial and polar ice and advancing shorelines. [Our continental shelf was once nearly completely exposed and stretched nearly all the way to Timor!]

Conversely when it waxes the joint warms with retreating polar and glacial ice, retreating shorelines and eroded beaches/coastal real estate! [Our continental shelf now under 200 approx, metres of seawater!]

During El Nino years there can be regional warming and reduced rainfall. Conversely During La Nina episodes the opposite is par for the course.

And an elliptical orbit around our sun imposes relatively minor variations each way, through the course of one full orbit or year.

What can't happen Jennifer is a warming trend during a waning phase of the sun, as ours has been in since the mid seventies (NASA) Moreover 2017 was the third hottest year on record even though we were in a La Nina episode. Even as CO2 was well into completely uncharted territory!

With 2014 being one of the hottest ever recorded? And part of a warming trend that has caused ambient temperatures to have risen nearly 1 full degree C above the preindustrial average?

New methods of recording temperatures may have made such recording even more accurate? I take you don't have an issue with that or the inherent integrity of NASA's scientists?

Please feel free to name those you believe are part of a quite massive international conspiracy to hoodwink the public? For what? Money?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 20 February 2018 9:46:26 AM
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There is nothing more fundamental to understanding climate variability and change than the integrity of the temperature data. So, why won't the Bureau publish the reports that presumably show measurements from the new electronic probes are equivalent to measurements from old style mercury thermometers?

And as regards who funds my work... I'm wholly funded by the B.Macfie Family Foundation which is administered by a retired medical doctor. Neither I, nor Dr Macfie, have anything to gain financially in any of this. As regards energy companies they are all profiting from the subsidies... as the bootleggers were aided by the Baptists.
Posted by Jennifer, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 10:00:31 AM
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Meanwhile our electricity prices have doubled while China builds 500 more coal fired stations. The high priests get rich and the gullible tax payers pours billions into unreliable renewables. How dumb can academia and the abc make people?
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 10:14:27 AM
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It would be hard to find a less bias-free agenda than the ABC's. The Nazi Party, perhaps? Sister bigot, the SBS, is even worse (probably Nazi level). There are some good programs on SBS, but an increasing number of commercial breaks push illegal immigration, 'changes to culture in the work place' do an online brainwash and 'learn how to comply with the anti-'Australianism, 'Gimme your money' for minorities in Myanmar, etc., etc.

The Left wing media, government as well as private, is shockingly bigoted and ultra Left wing; we have always known it, so why are do people seem surprised about it and keep on dragging it up? If there is something you want to watch, record it and fast-forward through the bigotry. You miss out on the ABC's self-advertising (of Left wing rubbish programs) and you miss out on commercial sponsors' ads on SBS. Companies might start to complain or, better still, withdraw their their sponsorship and and transfer it to the commercial channels who are interested in entertainment, not political brainwashing. The ABC's online business is also there to be ignored, too. They get a billion a year from us now; don't give them any more money.

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology? Another incompetent government organisation gobbling up a lot of our money, and often slippery when in comes to climate (they are not that good at forecasting weather either).

Who says the ice sheets on Greenland are melting ? The ABC?
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 10:50:40 AM
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I've laid out some irrefutable facts for you Jenny so why won't you deal with them as opposed to obsessing over newer more accurate temperature measurement methods.

Mercury is not accurate to the ninth degree but varies with variable atmospheric pressure. Deal with it and move on Jenny, we've had quite enough prevarication and climate change denials from you for one lifetime.

So Where does the Dr's foundation get their funds from? Peabody?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 20 February 2018 10:58:21 AM
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