You can't argue against logic, even though somw on this page still try.
Logic beats faith anytime.

David

Thanks David, I think you are quite right
Cheers, Geoff

Alan B and NNN arguing with the voices in their head.
But which wiitch is which in homophonia town?

Banjo, I cannot find my comment about 'because it exists it is natural'.

If I wrote that I was either being philosophical or I meant to say it came from nature. But NOT all nature is 'normal'.

An item is created on a production line with machines that are pre-set to a particular function.

If one machine breaks down, the end product will be abnormal.

This is no different in life.

Now turning my focus to my detractors, in particular Geoff of Perth.

You ask if by getting a wheelchair drive car, does it make you less abnormal?

How would I know? Do you feel less abnormal? If you do, good for you.

Now let me respond to YOUR comments about YOUR situation.

If you were born with these impediments, you were born 'abnormal'.

If you came to be in the state you are today, since you were born, you are still abnormal.

You obviously don't understand the concept of normality.

On the question of being offensive. I will repeat what I have said many times before.

If you are offended by something I say simply because you 'feel' offended, I don't care!

On the other hand if what I say is incorrect then I would 'insist' that someone correct me, obviously. And I would be greatful. Not offended.

Emotions, even though they run pretty high on these forums some times, play no part in any debate or discussion.

They offer no useful information other than the abuser is offended or frustrated because they cannot find a rebuttal to make their case.

Banjo, I get your point about everyone having some slight difference and the similarities between male and female.

What you are suggesting is microscopic. What I am suggesting is macroscopic. In the case of the queers it is mental.

We must establish a 'normal' base or we cannot confirm a particular status.

Some examples of norm;

9 months to give birth.
Our body temperature.

I could go on but you get my drift. So ANY deviation from the NORM is ABNORMAL. Don't get angry, get used to it.

Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein were all abnormal. They all deviated significantly in intelligence, creativity and productivity from the norm. There is nothing at all wrong in being abnormal. There is something wrong in rejecting or condemning a person solely because that person deviates from a norm.

David, still you try to deflect. I thought you had removed me from your 'give a crap' list.

Anyway seeing as how you still want to play,

I will accommodate you, how's that?

What you suggest is the basis of two separate criteria, even though they are both to do with the mind.

Assuming we consider your examples. 'One is abnormal because they are more intelligent than most', but still normal in every other way.

You have missed the point. They are within the normal spectrum of the brain and it's normal function.

Just more intelligent than most. Intelligence is not regarded as something against the laws of nature.

Being Gai is!

Being Gai was not a social or actual, norm historically.

If it was never accepted for thousands of years, there is no reason we should accept it now.