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'Shanghai Sam's' fall should alert attention to China’s rise : Comments

By Peter West, published 5/12/2017

We see China as backward, polluted and primitive, with appalling standards in the way the Chinese treat human beings.

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Dastyari should be headed for jail already, and China, apart from trade should be treated as the threat to our sovereignty and security that it is. China is an enemy, not a friend; it cares only for itself, and our politicians are simply too dumb to realise this.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 8:06:55 AM
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FREE TIBET!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 8:25:37 AM
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FREE SHIPPING!
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:02:49 AM
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Dastyari should be in Manus island and all iron ore given to Tasmania for land-fill . Bomb Beijing , Tibet and the Senate.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:12:18 AM
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THE TURNBULL GOVERNMENT IS EXCUSING ITS OWN EX-MINISTER
ANDREW ROBB'S BIGGER DEALINGS WITH CHINA.

According to The Sydney Morning Herald Robb is recieving more than $800,000 from China. More than Dastyari ever dreamed of.

The Sydney Morning Herald, JUNE 6 2017 http://www.smh.com.au/national/investigations/liberal-andrew-robb-took-880k-china-job-as-soon-as-he-left-parliament-20170602-gwje3e.html

"Liberal Andrew Robb took $880k China job as soon as he left Parliament"
by Nick McKenzie, Richard Baker and Chris Uhlmann

"Former Australian trade minister Andrew Robb walked straight out of Parliament last year and into an $880,000-a-year job with a billionaire closely aligned to the Chinese Communist Party and its key trade policy.

As part of the "confidential" consultancy deal, Mr Robb, the architect of the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement, began consulting to Ye Cheng the day before the July 2 federal election last year.

The arrangement, uncovered by a Fairfax Media-Four Corners investigation, involves monthly payments of $73,000 (including GST) to Mr Robb starting on July 1, 2016. Mr Robb had announced months earlier he would not recontest his seat of Goldstein.

Mr Ye is the owner of Landbridge, which controversially acquired the 99-year lease for the Port of Darwin in 2015. He is also a member of the national Chinese People's Consultative Committee, an advisory body that President Xi Jinping has directed to "uphold the CPC [Chinese Communist Party] leadership without wavering"."

"The details of the consultancy have never been disclosed by Mr Ye or Mr Robb. Neither has the fact that Mr Robb is being used to spruik a Chinese Communist Party-backed trade park as part of his consultancy agreement.

Mr Ye frames much of his business activity, including the acquisition of the Port of Darwin lease, in terms of advancing Beijing's ambitious global trade and infrastructure project "One Belt, One Road".

The port's acquisition sparked a major controversy after then US president Barack Obama complained he hadn't been forewarned. The Defence Department and ASIO have vetted and cleared Landbridge's acquisition of the port. But the director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, Peter Jennings, said the port deal might benefit Beijing's long-term strategic interests, and not necessarily those of Australia."

MORE TO FOLLOW
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:33:54 PM
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FROM ABOVE - Page 2

http://www.smh.com.au/national/investigations/liberal-andrew-robb-took-880k-china-job-as-soon-as-he-left-parliament-20170602-gwje3e.html

"Mr Ye publicly announced on September 2 last year that Mr Robb had been appointed as a "high-level economic consultant". At the time, Mr Robb had already been working for Mr Ye for eight weeks, and had earned $146,000, including GST but minus expenses.

Mr Robb is one of several senior former Australian politicians who have been hired by or who hold roles funded by businesses or businessmen closely aligned to the Chinese Communist Party.

The ethics code for departing ministers bans them for a period of 18 months from lobbying or advocating to the government or public service on any matters they previously dealt with as a minister. They must also ensure their personal conduct upholds the reputation of Parliament.

Mr Robb did not answer specific questions about his dealings with Landbridge, but said in a statement: "I can confirm that I fully understand my responsibilities as a former member of cabinet, and I can also confirm that I have, at all times, acted in accordance with those responsibilities."

Fairfax Media and Four Corners are not suggesting that Mr Robb has breached his obligations as an ex-minister.

The trade park being spruiked in Mr Robb's name is to be built in Rizhao, a thriving port city between Beijing and Shanghai. It is backed by the Communist Party-controlled Rizhao City Government in partnership with Mr Ye.

According to an official Chinese government statement, the park is designed to capitalise on the China Australia Free Trade Agreement as well as Mr Ye's purchase of the Darwin port. Mr Ye plans to build a second trade park in Darwin.

In April 2016, less than three months before his consultancy agreement began, Mr Robb visited China with an Australian delegation in his capacity as Australia's trade envoy. The delegation was lobbied by Rizhao Communist Party deputy secretary Liu Xingtai to support the trade park as part of a "Two Countries, Two Parks" proposal."

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Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:34:05 PM
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FROM ABOVE - Page 3

http://www.smh.com.au/national/investigations/liberal-andrew-robb-took-880k-china-job-as-soon-as-he-left-parliament-20170602-gwje3e.html

""The proposal has been fully recognised and highly affirmed by the Shandong Province Party Committee, the Provincial Government and the Department of Commerce," the Chinese government statement said.

The statement also said deputy secretary Liu had met Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and NT Chief Minister Adam Giles on April 14, 2016, and "proposed the co-operative model of Two Countries, Two Parks".

Mr Ye placed Mr Robb on his payroll 10 weeks later.

One of Mr Ye's companies later produced lobbying material in Mr Robb's name in which the former trade minister described the Rizhao trade park as a project that "advances the objectives in the historic (CHAFTA) accord [that] I was honoured to play a significant role" while trade minister.

"I encourage you to explore the Australia Park in China… where partnerships and collaboration between these two great nations will flourish for years to come," the statement in Mr Robb's name said.

In March, Mr Robb and Mr Ye travelled together to Sydney from China, where both attended a business and trade forum hosted by the Australian government, as part of Premier Li Keqiang's visit.

In a November 2016 interview with the ABC, Mr Robb said that "most of what he [Mr Ye] wants me for is because of my knowledge of other countries and other governments. He's got a global strategy for his company and he wants me to help him outside of Australia more than he wants me to help him inside Australia."

The private agreement between Mr Robb and Mr Ye contains no mention of Mr Robb's international knowledge and networks, referring only to his role providing "consulting" and "strategic" services.

Mr Robb has also been spruiking Rymill Coonawarra, a South Australian winery in which Mr Ye has a financial interest"...SEE MORE

ENDS
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:35:54 PM
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All we can do is push MPs to fix this mess of foreign donations and stop wasting time on trivial issues of little consequence
Posted by Waverley, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 2:15:41 PM
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And while all eyes are on Sam, unseen others are ready to do China's bidding just like those having done, and doing, the UK and US bidding before them.
But then you will always have the Jingo claiming it's ok to betray to anyone that speaks the Queens English 'cos they're really one of us.
Don't look at the ideas one brings to the table, look at their citizenship coz we live in country where an idea from a 'will never be' is always better than one bearing enlightenment....the only problem is that you need enough smarts to tell the difference.....and sadly Australia has never progressed sufficiently.
We had it all and pissed it away..... as has always been our lot
Posted by ilmessaggio, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 2:46:53 PM
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This afternoon (5 December) Turnbull is making announcements to cut down on foreign donations and influence.
Let's see if it has the effect we need.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-unveils-crackdown-on-foreign-donations-interference-in-australian-democracy-20171205-gzyw80.html
Posted by Waverley, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 3:30:24 PM
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Its pretty straightforward, you put a tariff on imports until they improve conditions...an added benefit would be that job quality in Australia's millennial working class would improve as well, so its a bit of win win scenario. So amazing for the people.
Posted by progressive pat, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 3:50:50 PM
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It comes as no surprise that china now threatens the U.S.A. As the premier super power/largest economy!

And I predicted it as long as 20 years ago.

We ourselves could threaten that sheer economic power if we were as united and single minded, rather than a divided rabble fighting each other, usually over non issues like SSM, and the spoils of defeat!

Passing strange that the CONSERVATIVE party would accept foreign donation by any foreign entity, let alone one coming from anything connected to communism!

We should get our act together, become one Australia, working for and advantaging other fellow Australians, rather than almost anyone else with a fistful of Chinese gold!

Honest John started this rot, I believe, by negotiating CNG (forty pieces of silver) contracts with of all countries, communist China, with its abysmal human rights record!

Failing the above, one united Australia, learn mandarin and how to properly cow tow!

Understanding a privileged few will still do okay for a time. At least until they have outlived their usefulness! And or have nothing we Australians used to own, to sell! Along with any remaining vestiges of self respect!

As for slippery Sam? He has had more chances than anyone else could have possibly earned and ought to be thrown to the baying wolves! And with nothing in the way of political entitlements? Save a one way ticket to Shanghai? Economy class!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 4:25:59 PM
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Andrew Robb is dreadfully upset. Some nasty insinuations are being made.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/andrew-robbs-secret-china-contract-money-for-nothing-20171205-gzzaq5.html
Posted by Waverley, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 9:07:16 AM
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Thanks Waverley

For the tip on Liberal former Minister Andrew Robb's payment.

Nick McKenzie and James Massol of The Sydney Morning Herald, December 6, 2017, reported
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/andrew-robbs-secret-china-contract-money-for-nothing-20171205-gzzaq5.html

"Andrew Robb's secret China contract: money for nothing"

"A secret letter to former trade minister Andrew Robb reveals that his consulting deal with a company closely linked to the Chinese government contains terms so vague and ill-defined he gets paid $880,000 a year even if he does nothing. Former NSW Supreme Court judge Anthony Whealy, who examined the terms of the leaked letter from Chinese firm Landbridge to Mr Robb, said that "on the face of it, he is required not to do anything and still get a whacking great fee"."...

see the rest of the SMH article at http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/andrew-robbs-secret-china-contract-money-for-nothing-20171205-gzzaq5.html
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:07:52 AM
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Well, China says we are all racist.
Note: There is no Chinese race.

China has many races.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/beijing-accuses-turnbull-of-bias-and-australian-media-of-racism-20171206-gzzv1z.html
Posted by Waverley, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 6:56:51 PM
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Proves section 44 of the Constitution is not only needed but should be extended.
Posted by McCackie, Thursday, 7 December 2017 7:45:20 AM
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Alan Jones read out a list of mainly rural properties that have been
bought by Chinese companies. It went on and on for ages.
150,000 hectares here a million hectares there, it was appalling.

The food produced will will go onto Chinese plates and we will make
nothing from it. I doubt we will even make taxes. It will be sold for
next to no profit to related companies.

Perhaps we need a Foreign Investment Board.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 8 December 2017 2:04:35 PM
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Yes we need far more control over who buys our land

Some countries just say"this is ours now" and nationalise the lot.

PS
News Corp papers are making a great deal of the Shanghai Sam issue- cartoons of Sam with his pants down, revealing undies with the Chinese flag etc.
But we nearly all wear undies "Made in China" these days.
Posted by Waverley, Friday, 8 December 2017 4:45:40 PM
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Hugh White says the White Paper issued by Turnbull Government is trying to get India, Indonesia and Japan to join Australia , a "Quad" of powers in the region live in- in opposing the might of China. He's not very optimistic.

http://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/canberra-voices-fears-but-who-will-contain-the-dragon
Posted by Waverley, Monday, 11 December 2017 1:13:41 PM
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"But we nearly all wear undies "Made in China" these days" .
Did you buy yours or where they are a gift from
Shantou Trendy Wind Garment Manufacture Co., Ltd. Guangdong?
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 11 December 2017 1:45:38 PM
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Hearings will begin this week in Washington about how China seeks to influence the West:

“ the Chinese efforts to influence our public policy and our basic freedoms are much more widespread than most people realize,” said Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), co-chairman of the Congressional-Executive Commission on China (CECC).

On Wednesday, the CECC will hold a hearing on the “Long Arm of China” to expose Chinese efforts to gain political influence, control discussion of sensitive topics, interfere in multilateral institutions, threaten and intimidate human rights defenders, impose censorship on foreign publishers and influence academic institutions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/chinas-foreign-influencers-are-causing-alarm-in-washington/2017/12/10/98227264-dc58-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?utm_term=.a9acf0293f79
Posted by Waverley, Monday, 11 December 2017 8:10:02 PM
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