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The truth about 'serious atheism' : Comments

By Graham Preston, published 27/11/2017

Now, if it is correct that there is no God, then certain things logically follow: these things are so regardless of whether any particular atheist believes them or not.

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If we are unfair in our assessment, then we will be off the mark in our conclusion. Atheists and nihilists probabley have many overlapping tones. Possibly a good chunk of atheists are nihilistic in their beliefs that nothing matters. But I think it's unwise to speeak for a group and exaggerate their logic. Atheism is wrong. The conclusion that God doesn't exist is wrong. Simply it's just not true. But if we exaggerate a person's logic, how will that point out their error?
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Monday, 27 November 2017 5:59:52 PM
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Politicians/the often undeserving rich and powerful, have the power to change the world! Just by leading by compassionate example and the provision of clean cheap safe power and the clean always available water that power alone would both enable/guarantee!

The only subjective evidence of God and his/her purpose is in us and a few exceptional human beings, e.g., Gandhi, Mother Theresa and progressives conservatives like Disraeli Abe Lincoln and new deal, Roosevelt etc.

However, in many cases, opposed by vested special interest/resident evil!

Resident evil backs greed and suicidal policies such as coal fired power and such, which accelerates man made climate change!

And in the face of incontrovertible evidence, the economy would be vastly better served along with common humanity! By cleaner, cheaper, safer nuclear energy!

And used as it should be, like manna from heaven and something we can use to change the world for all time! And for the better!

And in so doing, do God's work here on this tiny speck of dust in the absolute vastness of the incomprehensible ginormous universe!

Can the universe or the unified field of energy it is, think, dream or love?

Well you and I can and we are an integral part of that unified field of energy, euphemistically referred to, as the known and unknown universe!

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed but had to exist in some form as pure energy? Before the creation of the universe or unified field of energy!

When you or I think a thought there is a transfer of energy between one synapse of the brain and another! And none whatsoever in a once living corpse!

Why couldn't that thought form/energy also been the creator? And why couldn't the unified field of energy be part and parcel of it even if widely dispersed individualised divine sparks?

And so he created man in his own image, in his own image did he create him. When two or more gather in my name I am also there. As you do to the lest among you you also do unto me!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 27 November 2017 6:15:23 PM
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Why couldn't that thought form/energy also been the creator?

Sabine Becker - 2008 - ‎Science
.thorium was also detected in human brain samples (thin sections of hippocampus) and protein spots of human brain separated .
Thorium was the god of Vikings who took Saxon brain samples after Thor hammered them .
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 27 November 2017 7:05:36 PM
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Humans have been inventing gods for a long time. They invented Zeus, Jupiter, Thor and the other ancient gods. Now many humans believe in the god of the Bible, the Koran, the Indian pantheon and other gods who have replaced the ancient deities. There is no more reason to assume their existence than the existence of the ancient deities. All gods are created in human minds and exist nowhere else.
Posted by david f, Monday, 27 November 2017 7:40:08 PM
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You know, all this talk about atheism, is about as interesting as a bunch of spinach.
And did you know, you can boil a whole bunch of spinach down, to fit inside a 350ml container, in five minutes: Take note!

Jimmy Jones had a lovely balanced view on life, split between socialism, Christianity and outright debauchery, preached from the side of a Greyhound bus:Take note again.

I think God simply decided to let him go his own way in the end. Again take note!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 27 November 2017 8:17:37 PM
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Preston: Some may choose to include the golden rule and faithfulness to husbands and wives in their morality but in an atheistic universe they would not be doing anything wrong if they made up a morality that espoused greed and adultery instead.

Are you supposing that Atheists would be either on or the other. I think not. Most people are honest in the main with some personal deviation from time to time. If you think that an Atheist World would be just one Bacchanalian Party I think you are wrong. Or, maybe that’s what you would hope for. I’ve always found that the very people that are quick to accuse others of moral in-fortitude are the very people that are morally bankrupt. They are therefore everyone else is.

Preston: One cannot fail if there is no objective goal and one cannot be cruel if there is no objective moral standard.

Of course you can, as I said before most people have in innate high moral standard. To say otherwise is a reflection on ones’ own moral standard. If you have a high moral standard & fail has nothing to do with whether it is Religiously based or Atheistically based that is immaterial.
Cont.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 27 November 2017 9:13:44 PM
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