AB: neither can those described as homosexual.

BS most homosexual choose the lifestyle & are weak minded individuals. It's trendy at the moment as well. The homosexuals with a malfunctioning Gene do have some excuse at least but they are very few & far between.

AB: alleged pastoral carers in institutions,

& just who are these Pastoral Carers... Homosexuals mostly, especially if it's same sex interference.

Regardless of the how or why, the practice is still just yucky & gives me the shivers just thinking about it.

//BS most homosexual choose//

Really? What's their secret?

How might I go about choosing who I'm attracted to? I could get heaps more action if I could choose to be attracted to fat ugly chicks... but as it stands I just can't manage it, because they're so fat and ugly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1JhjugqB0U

Aidan,

Actually, I think it is also about the children. The children of gay couples deserve not to have their parents' relationship treated as second class - even if you think they're "ersatz".

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Toni Lavis,

I suspect those who think it's a choice are bisexual. Who else could think the choice to go one way or the other was so easy? I could never choose to have sex with another man, but I bet I would have gotten more action in my single days had that been possible.

AJ Philips,
Do you also believe the children of polyamorous partnerships deserve not to have their parents' relationship treated as second class?

Aidan,

Your question is a red herring. But, since you asked, if the benefits of recognising polygamous relationships outweigh the risks, then your suggestion could well warrant further discussion. My subjective option on whether such arrangements are ersatz, however, should not come into it.

Because rape and incest are often a feature of polygamy (particularly when it is required/sanctioned by religion), though, I would be more immediately concerned about the welfare of the children so far as abuse is concerned.

People don't ever choose to be born different! But we, or rather we who quite deliberately and knowingly chose to ignore the growing body of scientifically garnered, peer reviewed evidence! Some even claiming medical credentials!

Choose, yes choose to treat these different folk as second class citizens! And that my friends is the only real choice evidenced here or in brainwashed from birth, stone age belief systems!

In essence the only question being put! Nothing else whatsoever!

We used to believe that it was okay to keep coloured folk as slaves, given their dark skin was, according to some religious philosophies, the mark of Cain, who would be punished forever though his descendants.

Who like the yellow races, were hardly better than domesticated animals.

But we moved on from that, particularly when we were able to make carbon our slave!

We don't get to choose our sex nor our sexual orientation. Only the simple minded would believe so!

I mean, when it came to puberty. How many posting here, CHOOSE to be heterosexual?

Or did we just accept our biological norms, as the hand nature dealt, along with our gender opposite bias or orientation?

We've come a long way since those days of Victorian puritanical practice!

Just not far enough for some medieval cultures and or, fundamentalists!

And for them it has nothing to do with civil rights! Just their perceived right as self appointed, control freaks, to stand in the creator's shoes and decide who/what is right and who/what is wrong?

And then seek to justify themselves and their actions and activities past, and present! By fatuously and falsely alleging that the different chose that difference?

Thus, coloured folk offended God and had the mark of Cain on them. Were no better than animals and an act of bestiality to have a conjugal relationship with them. And on and on.

Time to nail home the last nail into this coffin of previously acceptable discrimination!
Alan B.