ALTRAV,

That depends on what you want to convey.

<<I have explained myself clearly on this topic …>>

If you want to show yourself to be a hateful bigot with no rational justification for his position, then sure, you’ve done a fine job.

<<In case you're not familiar with the term 'deflect' …>>

I am. So, again:

“From what? You’re the one who made the claim(s).” (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=19225#341679)

<<The one point you must accept is that a person who is emotionally drawn to someone of the same gender IS what is patently clear to everyone else, and referred to by the medical profession, as something other than normal.>>

Yeah, you’ve said this a couple of times now. What I’m interested in is your evidence and/or reasoning for this claim. Simply inserting the word "patently" just ain't gonna cut it, I'm afraid. Because psychologists and geneticists clearly don’t agree with you.

<<I have used the example of others who fit into that category such as albino's and dwarfs.>>

So, you consider it a genetic defect then? (At least you don’t claim that it's a choice, I suppose.) Why, then, would you hate and vilify a group for what they cannot help? You are no better than a racist.

<<Now be a sport and simply accept who/what you are and leave it at that.>>

So, you have such a small mind that you cannot imagine that a heterosexual could be fine with homosexuality?

<<Apparently you and your lot can't [take vilification].>>

Well, it does tend to grind an entire demographic down when it’s been going on for millennia. Nothing particularly fragile about that.

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Leo Lane,

Still claiming they’re perverts, eh?

<<… I know that the perverts will lose …>>

And still with no evidence or sound reasoning for that claim, too, I take it?

<<The fact that the perverts have nothing but lies and nonsense, as typified in AJ Phillips posts …>>

Oh, we’re going back to the ‘liar’ bit are we? Very brave of you, given that you were unable to substantiate that claim every other time you made it, too.

Herenow "It's a matter of equality for all consenting adults."

Except polygamous and incestous partners.

Even if gay marriage is approved, I cannot marry *two* men, only one, no matter how much all three of us "love" each other.

I also cannot marry my brother, half-brother or even *adopted* brother!

#loveislove, baby!

The postal union is now using the lame excuse of worker "welfare" to impose an ideological bias on what gay marriage material it will or won't deliver.

Since when do posties decide if they're *personally* "offended" by mail or not, and therefore whether to deliver it?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/samesex-marriage-plebiscite-posties-union-warns-about-welfare-risk-of-workers-delivering-material/news-story/660eae7e7e300154acc5799cfc2a8a48

AJ: you consider it a genetic defect then? (At least you don’t claim that it's a choice,)

In some cases Homosexuality is a Genetic defect. In other cases it's a lifestyle choice. It appears to be a Lefty trendy thing, where those that choose that lifestyle do so because they want to fit into their chosen Group. (Anti-establishment) These one are easy to tell because they go over the top in their dress & mannerisms. These are people who desperately want attention Eg; Goths, Head banger's, Queer queers, Beatnik's, Greenies, LGBTIC&A's, Lawyers, etc.

AJ I am not going to respond to your questions because I have done so again and again. I thank all the 'Nay sayers' for having the courage to tell it like it is. Shockadelic and Jayb, good to hear your views. I am not a linguist or well versed in the art of writing, lacking the knowledge of more appropriate words befitting the questions. But suffice to say I fully expect the Nay sayers to put up a fight. I am a little dis-appointed that they will not concede at least one or two points but stand fast in their totally un-natural views and life style. So long as we have people who don't stand up for right and wrong or are too gutless or scared for fear of retribution, we will continue to see changes in the world that are going to further divide the people to the point that they will slowly take matters into their own hands.

AJ Philips, there's no point responding to anything ALTRAV puts up. You simply cannot engage with someone who is so clearly deranged.

It all seems very straightforward to me.
Except for those very unfortunate people who are born hermaphrodites
the "average" gay person is I believe genetically normal.
They, I believe have been diverted by a chance trigger or what I think
is more common these days, fashion.

It has obviously become fashionable in some quarters to be "gay".
The basic fact is their DNA is definitely male or female.
They cannot together give birth to a child so their union cannot be
described as marriage.

So I will be ticking NO in the ballot paper when it arrives.