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History shows same-sex marriage plebiscite unnecessary and out of step : Comments

By Rebecca Ananian-Welsh and Chris Peppel, published 17/8/2017

Our own history calls the necessity of this plebiscite into question, and shows that a postal vote regarding marriage equality signals a new era in Australian plebiscites.

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A J Philips, if I am a 'hateful person' it is because you and your lot have become such a pain in the arse with your banging on and on about why you should all be taken seriously. Well as long as you keep pushing your un-natural and un-wanted agenda, me and the rest of the normal people out there will cut you off at every opportunity. Oh and as for your rejection of the comment 'that queers suffer from mental illness', by suggesting it you have made my case for me. Stop deflecting. We are not going to give you a 'get out of the closet free' card. Hateful? Nah, just fed up with you lot for continually deflecting and living a lie then trying to tell us we MUST accept you because you say so. I note you didn't respond to my comments where you engage in buggery and sodomy as a matter of norm, because you 'love' each other. Well I'm giving you a chance to rebut this. Oh and by the way it is a sickness in the form of mental dis-order. If you weren't sick you would agree.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 10:28:43 PM
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I’m not gay, ALTRAV.

<<if I am a 'hateful person' it is because you and your lot have become such a pain in the arse with your banging on and on about why you should all be taken seriously.>>

But even if you’re just talking about anyone who supports marriage equality, then please, by all means, tell me why we shouldn’t be taken seriously.

<<Well as long as you keep pushing your un-natural and un-wanted agenda …>>

What does nature have to do with anything, and how do you know that homosexuality isn’t natural?

<<Oh and as for your rejection of the comment 'that queers suffer from mental illness', by suggesting it you have made my case for me.>>

Really now? So, anyone who rejects that a certain population have a mental illness actually confirm it by doing so? What kind of screwy logic is that?

<<Stop deflecting.>>

From what? You’re the one who made the claim.

<<We are not going to give you a 'get out of the closet free' card.>>

Why not? I'm letting you.

<<Hateful?>>

Yes, hateful. Your vitriol is unjustified. Therefore, it comes across as “hateful”.

<<Nah, just fed up with you lot for continually deflecting and living a lie then trying to tell us we MUST accept you because you say so.

Deflecting from what, and living what lie?

<<I note you didn't respond to my comments where you engage in buggery and sodomy as a matter of norm …>>

That’s because I don’t. (Do you realise that it’s no longer an insult to refer to someone as a homosexual?) I take it, then, that you are fine with lesbians, and reject the marriages of opposite-sex couples who engage in anal sex?

<<Well I'm giving you a chance to rebut this.>>

Done and done.

<<Oh and by the way it is a sickness in the form of mental dis-order.>>

Still waiting for evidence for this.
Posted by AJ Philips, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 10:46:28 PM
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//Sounds like a possible case of repressed homosexuality//

Nah, I doubt he's gay. He sounds more like your common or garden variety internet troll to me: no girlfriend, no mates, no life. Desperate for attention, but the only way he knows how to get it is carrying on like a pork chop behind a cloak of of anonymity, secure in his parents house where he still lives. Probably still a virgin.

You do have to pity such people, but showering them with the attention they crave is actually counter-productive.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:17:36 AM
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A J Philips, I have explained myself clearly on this topic, (several times). In case you're not familiar with the term 'deflect' it means you avoid responding to the questions or particular points, by commenting on some other non-related matter. The one point you must accept is that a person who is emotionally drawn to someone of the same gender IS what is patently clear to everyone else, and referred to by the medical profession, as something other than normal. I have used the example of others who fit into that category such as albino's and dwarfs. Now be a sport and simply accept who/what you are and leave it at that. As for me I don't mind being demonised and vilified, BUT, just remember I can take it. Apparently you and your lot can't.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 1:06:48 AM
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Now T Lavis, I'm a little slow but I'm not sure whether you're serious or trying your hand at humour. To clarify, in response to your comments. I had a little chuckle in that your description of me and my lifestyle, are well, quite the opposite. But it was fun reading them just the same. Toni, I respond to these articles as someone who has seen minorities and miscreants get away with 'murder'. (figuratively speaking) It has been my duty to stand against people who make selfish or stupid demands or worse. It's bad enough politicians these days are like prostitutes who sell themselves to the highest bidder, so it comes to people like me to 'stand and fight' as the saying goes. The bulk of the population are too busy watching sports or down the pub or who knows what. And it's because of the lazy she'll be right attitude of these cretins that we get these stupid and even insipid laws. So I am quite at ease with being abused and worse because I know that I have just hit a nerve. If I had no response it would also mean I was right. So you see Toni, if you are a YES person I can understand you want to be heard. Well Toni we hear you but we just don't like what you're saying.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 1:34:11 AM
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Intuitively, I know that the perverts will lose, but I have also given some conscious thought to the matter.
The fact that the perverts have nothing but lies and nonsense, as typified in AJ Phillips posts, is not an ultimate determining factor, since contests like this are often carried by lies and nonsense, as the perverts, or their advisers, are well aware.
I thought back to a dinner party I attended many years ago, and at the table I joined, one individual asked what everyone did by way of community service, as unpaid work.
He said that he attended gaols, to assist inmates in relation to parole and release applications.
One case he was currently attending was to assist a 19 year old youth whose sentence was for bashing a poofter to death. The difficulty in assisting him arose from his inability to see anything wrong in bashing a poofter to death.
Someone said, “Think back to when you were nineteen, could you see anything wrong with bashing a poofter to death then?” Not everyone laughed, and the topic then changed.. Reflecting on it, I realised that it was a common attitude among young fellows.. Reproduction of a human being is a complicated process, and it is little wonder that natural mistakes occur, like an individual with a male body being fitted with a female temperament.
It seems to me feasible that young men and others could have an instinct, or programmed urge to dispose of such a mistake of nature. It also seems feasible that existing negative programming of people in relation to perverts could govern the outcome of the postal vote..
It will be interesting to see the outcome.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 2:18:56 AM
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