Phillips says:” therein lies the circularity of your reasoning"
Phillips, did you really mistake my statements of fact for reasoning, or are you just pretending to be stupid again, to make this ridiculous assertion?
If you have no valid or sensible comment, just say so. Do not add to your output of nonsense, and fact denial.
You have already exposed the invalidity of support for the yes vote.
It is a long wait to November, but at least you have increased the chances of a NO vote.

Nice try, Leo Lane.

<<Phillips, did you really mistake my statements of fact for reasoning …>>

Just make it look like you were randomly stating an irrelevant fact. Good luck selling that one!

You assert that gay people can never get married because marriage can only ever be between a man and a woman. When asked to cite what your authority is on this, you studiously avoid mentioning the god you believe in (*snigger*), and then appeal what the law says. When it is then pointed out to you that there is no reason the law cannot be changed, you fall back to your assertion that marriage can only ever be between a man and a woman.

Your reasoning is circular. Deal with it.

<<If you have no valid or sensible comment, just say so.>>

I do: equality. You are yet to counter this with anything beyond your claim that if the Marriage Act doesn’t deal with same-sex couples, then it cannot be discriminating; while completely ignoring the fact that that is precisely how it discriminates.

Just a couple of quick questions.

Why are the LGBTCIA so afraid of the Plebiscite?

Are they afraid that the Plebiscite will go against them & show them up?

Toni Lavis "Umm... isn't that why we're having a postal survey? Sorry, I feel like I've missed something here."

The Australian people didn't ask for a postal survey, a plebiscite, a parliamentary vote or anything else.

Fewer Australians than ever are getting married, so the issue is hardly one they would fell emphatic about.

Certain pushy ideological bullies (<1% of the population) insist on "reform".
That's why we're having a postal survey.

AJ Philips "I do: equality".

Equality is itself a questionable justification for anything.

It is an idealised abstraction, not a "fact" or "reality".

Why aren't incestous or polygamous adults entitled to this mythical "equality"?

Shockadelic,

Why is equality a questionable justification for anything?

<<Why aren't incestous or polygamous adults entitled to this mythical "equality"?>>

"Perhaps many believe that those other forms of marriage will have deleterious effects on societal health? Perhaps it would be too much too soon?" (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=19225#342052)

But I'm happy to fight for polygamy and incestous relationships, too, if that's what you want.

Why is equality mythical, by the way?

//The Australian people didn't ask for a postal survey, a plebiscite, a parliamentary vote or anything else.//

Bollocks. I know for a fact that I wrote to my local member asking for a parliamentary vote, and I'm an Australian people.

//Certain pushy ideological bullies (<1% of the population) insist on "reform".
That's why we're having a postal survey.//

Less than 1% you say? It's refreshing to see somebody make a quantitative prediction. Still, I think when the survey is counted it's going to be >>1% in favour of "reform". Only time will tell. Whilst we're waiting, would you care to make a wager?

And once again, because you don't seem to read so good or something: did you read the link about Hume's guillotine? After initially arguing against Hume's guillotine, you now seem to desperate to just avoid the subject altogether. What's up with that?