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The ABC needs to know its place and time : Comments
By Gary Johns, published 10/5/2017As for the ABC's Yassmin Abdel-Magied's offensive Anzac Day tweet, and her eulogy to Islamic feminism, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was right to regard her as a 'hypocrite', dripping phony indignation.
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Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 11:58:01 AM
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Is that the truth, or did you read about it in a Murdoch "news"-paper!
Never mind that you will never ever find the truth about anything in the commercial media, especially that published by Murdoch - as this essay points out: http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/popdisgu.html Nor will you ever find anything remotely true about religion in the Australian - especially about the Process involved in the practice of esoteric Spiritual religion. Meanwhile three inter-related references on the very tangible reality of the felt-perception of the Earth-world as Gaia in which we are completely entangled at many levels both visible and invisible, and upon which we are completely depednent, even for our next breath http://sacredcamelgardens.com/wordpress/wisdom/bridge-to-god http://openfield.earth http://sacredforests.earth http://thetruezoo.earth As distinct from the power-and-control chop everything down world-view pictured in this stark image http://www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel21.html Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 12:54:00 PM
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Yassmin Abdel-Magied is a 26 year old naif who just might cringe with embarrassment when she looks back in her mature years. Then again, she might not; but the real idiots are those in the ABC who gave her her own program, and all the others who put her on the multicultural gravy train. If a few Muslms are needed – in proportion to their very slight presence in the country – then surely there are some with a brain and some mature outlooks on life! This kid is barely out of nappies.
As far and the ABC itself goes, who needs it? The last time I looked, audience numbers were about 22% of the population. I personally watch it only on weekends where there is SOMETIMES good British drama that I have a weakness for; as for the rest of the week – nah! Predicable Left-wing bias and gross, unfunny humour of the sort that 26 year olds and under might find funny because of the over-use of the eff word. Actually, Cobber has a point about shifiting it all to the bush. They do provide a service that the commercials do not, and they could employ locals instead of inner city dropkicks. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 1:26:43 PM
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Cobber has a very good point about shifting it to the bush.
However, that should also be accompanied by allocating a large share of the ABC budget to funding local community DIGITAL education and services. The ABC could also do more for its forgotten rapidly growing cohort of older Australians by bringing them up to date and supporting their use of digital communication. It is most unfair that older people are being left out of the boat in the digital revolution. Yet their access to and confident use of digital technology is crucial to their wellbeing and to saving the taxpayer dollars through their continued independence, better health, better social contact and continued interest and learning and so on. The ABC must not be allowed to continue to sit on all of those eggs, jealously reserving the lion's share for its favourites. -That is, after the ABC's large management overheads are catered for. Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 1:57:15 PM
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What a very strange article indeed. It combines ABC bashing, a whine because of the decline of Christianity ( long overdue), another whine because of the decline of the coal industry (also long overdue) and an attack on free speech.
Abdel Magied's rants are typical of religiots of any religion, we regularly hear such drivel from Christians. Without the ABC Australia would be left with Murdoch's parrots and a much diminished democracy. Posted by mac, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 3:28:33 PM
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mac,
Care to tell us when a Christian made made the same disparaging remarks on Anzac Day that the Muslim female made? Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 3:33:02 PM
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ttbn,
Abdel Magied is entitled to make disparaging remarks about Anzac Day if she chooses. Do you want her to be charged with blaspheming the sacred institution of Anzac? Whether or not Christians have made disparaging remarks about Anzac Day is irrelevant. Posted by mac, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 5:13:59 PM
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Maybe the freedom that the Anzacs fought for included speech about anything . Probably they didn't think they were being saintly when knocking off johnny Turk and stopping Germany was all they had in mind. "Freedom" is a Yank Hollywood slogan . Fair-go allows slinging off at Muslims , Church and Anzac Day.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 6:33:56 PM
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ttbn,
Abdel Magied's remarks, though inappropriate for Anzac Day, were hardly disparaging. They'd have been quite appropriate for Remembrance Day. AFAIK no Christian has made the same remarks on Anzac Day that she has, but historically many have made disparaging remarks about Anzac Day. Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 7:16:09 PM
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mac,
No. It's not irrelevant. You said: “ we regularly hear such drivel from Christians.” So, please answer the question. Well, you can't of course. You are just another Christian hater and apologist for Islam. All mouth and no brains. Aidan, But it wasn't Rememberance Day was it? It was Anzac Day. And, Australians have no need to remember or care about the groups the silly girl dragged up. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 9:09:54 PM
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ttbn,
I noticed that you've resorted to ad hominem attacks. I don't favor one superstition over any other, all religions are equally ridiculous. Posted by mac, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 9:19:47 PM
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What disparaging things did she say ?
SMH wrote this :"Andrew P Street is a well-known columnist for The Sydney Morning Herald , ..described Gallipoli as a "humiliating defeat", and made a direct link between Anzac Day and a need to examine the pointlessness and politics of war Other than a few irritable comments on Twitter, there was no backlash to this post or the attached article . Street, however, is a straight, white man in Australia, so making a political statement is something he's deemed within his rights to do. . Jeff Sparrow's 2012 article for Overland on the politics of Anzac Day is still shared every year, and rarely are there calls for his deportation or dismissal. Stan Grant wrote an article yesterday for the ABC about the horrors and racism experienced by Aboriginal soldiers in WWI. Grant is Aboriginal,, even he was not subjected to the entrenched national viciousness that Yassmin received." - Hatred for Mussies sometimes becomes an abuse of Anzac Day's meaning . Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 9:31:21 PM
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ttbn;
"But it wasn't Rememberance Day was it? It was Anzac Day." Duh! And because it was Anzac Day, it was inappropriate and she apologised. That should've been the end of the matter, but many morons on this board and in the Murdoch press thought this minor faux pas was so appalling that she deserves to lose her job or even her nationality! "And, Australians have no need to remember or care about the groups the silly girl dragged up." You're saying Australians have no need to remember or care about the places that Australian soldiers fought for? That's far far far far far far far far far far far far far far worse than what she said! Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 9:45:24 PM
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I don't think it was a minor faux pas. I think it was a calculated stunt to attract attention for her particular issues. Once you have everyone's attention then you apologise lest you lose your job.
This is not how issues should be discussed. Syria and Nauru are worthy topics of discussion but they should not be given attention just because someone has created a scene. They should stand or fall as issues in their own right. If they are worthy issues for public debate then raise them at the appropriate time. It shows a lack of judgement and respect for all other social issues that need attention. Barging in like she did is disrespectful to those who are focusing on Anzac Day. Why would she run the risk of appearing insensitive when issues like Syria and Nauru will still be there the very next day. Someone who has such poor judgement and sensitivity is a very questionable appointment to any position dealing with public policy. Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:41:17 PM
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"you have everyone's attention "? It was facebook and people had to go there by choice. She's odd like ABC rage and triple JJJ. Her private words were factual and sensible and Barnaby Joyce complained ? She can't be that bad..
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 11 May 2017 7:16:45 AM
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Now that your PM has decided to go by way of the left what are you going to whine about now. Mr Abbott will not be happy.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 11 May 2017 9:31:58 AM
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Freedom of expression is one of our treasured Australian values: any idiot can say what they like (subject to Sec. 18 (c)). That's one of the values that Australian soldiers fought and died for, in Syria in both World Wars, in Palestine, and in Manus and Nauru where they liberated local people enslaved by the Japs.
This stupid girl is a mouth-piece for the terrorist group Hizb-ut-Tahrir. Let her keep speaking so that we can get a better idea of what they are up to. Put her on more committees ! Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 11 May 2017 9:50:58 AM
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"Australian soldiers fought and died for, in Syria" and today also .
So you and the girl agree. Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 11 May 2017 11:27:49 AM
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Yasmin's hatred of what has given her freedom says a lot more about the people who employ her than herself. A system whereby no doubt the tax payer has paid her to study warped narratives and then given her a job when many sensible Australians can't get work shows how dumb our secular system is. People continue to vote for parties that gives this socialist Austalian hating broadcaster over a billion a year.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry when that privileged indignabt feminist presenter of Q&A banged on about how easy it was to buy a house 60 years ago. What an absolute disgrace of a woman. My parents never owned a home. My parents in law lived without electricity in a shed while working from dawn to dusk to buy a place. To have someone who is on 200,000 to 300000 a year from the public purse shows why the SWAMP needs draining. Posted by runner, Thursday, 11 May 2017 11:42:58 AM
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nicknamenick:
"Her private words" Just between her and 60k followers. Posted by phanto, Thursday, 11 May 2017 1:35:12 PM
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If people want to look for her facebook and read the names of countries and get hysterical then I'm not surprised. The Australian War Memorial looks like a mosque with Quranzac writing.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 11 May 2017 6:44:22 PM
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It's strange but.."campaign to make "Mother's Day" a recognized holiday in the United States began in 1905, the year her mother, Ann Reeves Jarvis, died. Ann Jarvis had been a peace activist who cared for wounded soldiers on both sides of the American Civil War,"..
Anzac Day is not a victory march as the only success was the retreat. It remembers death and the recent Coral sea event included Japan. Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 13 May 2017 9:11:26 AM
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Nicknicknick,
I don't think that Australians celebrate Anzac Day or Armistice Day as victories so much as days to admire and remember the sacrifices that Australian and New Zealand men and women made to combat fascism and protect the basic values that you and I are able to live by. But as I noted above, "Freedom of expression is one of our treasured Australian values: any idiot can say what they like." So go for it :) Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 13 May 2017 11:16:58 AM
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In that case it's not offensive to remember other war dead , is it?
If it's offensive then Anzac Day must be something else than what you wrote. Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 13 May 2017 12:23:31 PM
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as a result of which they are increasingly out of touch with Australia and increasingly believing they are above review.
How about a move to a few regional centers like Wagga Wagga, Port Pirie and Albany should clear out some of the skivvy wearer's. .