AC,

You have yet to refute anything I have posted. There is also no sign of any academic rigour in your posts, nor reference to research, and most of what you say is unrelated waffle. If you had done your research you would have picked up that the proposed partition plan was accepted by the Jews and rejected out of hand by the Arabs, not the other way around as you claim.

With respect to my "dump", your over inflated ego may struggle to believe that the thread is not all about you, but the proof that most European Jews are direct descendants of those forced out of Israel destroys any argument that they have no Israeli heritage.

Similarly, you couldn't comprehend Singer's point that none of the 22 Arab states are democracies and are amongst the very worst with respect to human rights whereas Israel is a democracy with the best human rights record in the whole middle east.

Y,

You are right. This did not justify the massed attempts by Israel's neighbours at genocide in 67 and 73.

It also neglects the millions of Jews that fled the repression of the old soviet union when communism collapsed in 1990.

“If you had done your research you would have picked up that the proposed partition plan was accepted by the Jews and rejected out of hand by the Arabs, not the other way around as you claim.”

“In 1937 even the Zionists rejected the partition proposal, they accepted it simply as a basis for further negotiation. In 1938 the Brits then rejected the idea of partition outright and said it was impractical. The White Paper of 1939 called for a unified Palestine and limitations on Jewish immigration. Whilst accepting Palestine as a Jewish homeland, it rejected a Jewish state. The Arabs accepted this proposal but then along came World War II and the Nazis help deliver a Jewish State!

Posted by Anti-Colonial, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:16:04 AM”

SM

As I said before, you must work really hard to be so stupendously inane. So let me baby step it for you -

1. The Peel Commission set up in 1936
2. The Peel Commission draw up a partition plan, with borders, in 1937.
3. The partition was rejected outright by the Arabs.
4. The partition borders were rejected by the Zionists. They saw them as a starting point for further negotiations.
5. The Woodhead Commission of 1938 tried to draw down on three different scenarios of partition. The British Government rejected its conclusions and scrapped the idea of partition completely as it would be too difficult.
6. The 1939 White Paper stated that the mandate had been met by providing a Jewish homeland to over 450,000 Jews. It now called for an independent Palestine governed jointly by Jews and Arabs.
7. In 1939 the Zionists reject the White Paper.
8. In 1940 the Arabs signed off on this proposal.
9. In 1942 the Zionists for the first time, officially reject the British Jewish Homeland proposal and demand a Jewish state.
10. The White Paper remained government policy until the end of the League of Nations.

I'll trash the rest of your inane post later David.

AC,

Now you are just being dishonest. No matter how you try and spin it:

Every single proposal was rejected by the Arabs. The 1937 paper was rejected outright by the Arabs (Not by the Jews who stated that they accepted the principles but not the proposal in its entirety, but given that it was a white paper it was not necessarily final) . The 1939 proposal was soundly rejected by the Arabs and Jews, with the Arabs only expressing interest long after the proposal was off the table.

But the elephant in the room is the 1947 proposal which the Jews accepted but the Arabs rejected completely and then en mass made the first of 3 attempted genocides.

#Anti-Colonial

Have just come across this comment and one other immediately following by you:
"I'll do you a deal. You tell us why the Jewish responses to literal translations of the Torah are valid support for Zionism given the paucity of Jews in Palestine prior to the emergence of the modern Zionism movement. Also why the Jews who say that Judaism does not equate to Zionism are wrong? In return I'll give you five rock solid reasons why a Palestinian Moslem is the same as a Palestinian Jew and I'll throw in another three reasons that can be argued either way."

You need to give me your five rock solid reasons first and then I will respond to your above requests and the ones you raised in your comment posted on Tuesday, 18 April 2017 1:16:04 AM