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Apprehension about Islam : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 8/3/2017

It is important to draw a distinction between

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It is very disappointing that the government had to learn the hard way that Muslims are not suitable as immigrants. Surely we can help people where they are but our government should not put Australians at risk by allowing many Muslims into Australia. For those interested Bernard Gaynor, former Major in intelligence in Afghanistan, has made a very good video blog on his experiences dealing with Islamic terror. He makes the point that our commitments to Iraq and Afghanistan were doomeed to failure because we were replacing one group of bad guys with another. Go to Google and look up Bernard Gaynor and Afghanistan. The video is very shocking and very informative and is in sync with Babette's article.
Posted by Gadfly42, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 11:55:13 AM
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How can we distinguish between Islam and Muslims. Muslims ( we used to call them Mohamedans) are followers of the teachings of Mohammed.
According the Arabic texts ( hadiths) Mohamed "married" a 6 year old girl Aisha ( 'married" is in quotes as to talk about marriage of a six year is sickening).In the year 622 of the Christian Era he "consummated" the "marriage when she was 9.
If alive in Australia today he would be in gaol as a paedophile.

From the hadiths we know that in in year 627 of the Christian Era Mohammed conquered a Jewish Qurayzah tribe, beheaded all adult males and enslaved the women and children.

If alive today he would be in gaol as a war criminal.

In the Koran he advises his followers to do the beating of their wives away from the house.

In the Koran he approves of giving prisoners of war the choice of conversion to Islam or death.

If you are a Muslim, by definition, you follow the teaching of Mohammed.

Therefore, if you are a Muslim, your moral parameters have been set by a wife beating paedophile war criminal.

Therefore, if you are a Muslim, you are not a fit and proper person to cast a vote in a country that aspires to be a liberal democracy.

-- or to be a citizen of such a country.

The production of such a belief system of people who cut off heads of prisoners of war and have their children hold up the head for the camera is a natural result of that belief system.

Read the Koran and hadiths. It is all proudly on record in Arabic and translations are available.
Posted by Old Man, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 12:12:10 PM
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Diver Dan says: “Muslims in our communities are suffering form outright hostilities in shopping centres and other public places. There is an open warfare on peaceful Muslim communities.”

Golly gosh! Just like the things Muslims are doing to innocents all over the world – NOT!

Come on, Dan. A little bit of abuse to people purposefully parading themselves as Muslims by way of dress is very a small response from a few frustrated people who have had these aliens planted in their suburbs. You are exposing yourself as an apologist for Islam and undesirable immigration.

Anyone stupid enough to go around, covered up like some freak from the Middle Ages in a modern society which they have intruded on deserves everything they get. While I would not abuse anyone myself, I certainly have no sympathy for your manfactured 'victims'. Thousands of immigrants have come to Australia, prepared to fit in, but Muslims have refused to do so. They are part of the oncoming Islamisation.

Muslims should be as unwelcome as the KKK in any Western society.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 1:22:45 PM
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Diver, you criticise those "right wingers" but they are being realistic.
We can see already a creeping Islam in Sydney. The affair at Punchbowl
boys school follows the program "Trojan Horse" set up in Birmingham
high schools in the UK.
The political correct attitude shown by the media to "Islamaphobia"
illustrates exactly what is the problem.

You need to examine what is happening in Europe.
The European laws are being pushed aside and Sharia legal areas established.
In the UK Sharia courts are legal and recognised. Appeals can be made
to the British courts but it seldom happens.

Re Islamaphobia, it does not exist because fear of Islam is not a phobia it is real.
Canada has made Islamaphobia a criminal offence !
If I published a book that advocated the killing of moslems I might
be fined for a "Hate Crime" or be up to the Human Rights Commission
on a racial charge, even though Islam is not a race. No one seems
to understand the difference.

No, the problem is very real and organisations like Australian Liberty
Alliance and One Nation are being very realistic.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 1:40:01 PM
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Have you read the bible old man?
It contains just as much, if not more, filth and immorality than the koran.

The god of the xians supports and encourages

slavery, (Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:2-6, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2)
murdering your own children, (Deuteronomy 21:18–21, Genesis 22)
genocide, (1 Sam 15:1;3, Joshua 6:21,Genesis 7:4)
ethnic cleansing, (Deuteronomy 7:1-11, 2 Samuel 10:18)
pedophilia, (Numbers 31:1-18, Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
rape, (Judges 19:25-28, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 22:28-29, 2 Samuel 13)
extortion, (1 Samuel 2:12-17)
and incest. (Genesis 19:30-38, Genesis 4, 2 Samuel 13, II Kings 13:1-2)
Just for starters.

So your assertions should also read....
Therefore, if you are a christian, you are not a fit and proper person to cast a vote in a country that aspires to be a liberal democracy.

-- or to be a citizen of such a country.

Agreed?
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 1:58:53 PM
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Surely Mikk you cannot be as disconnected from reality as your post suggests.
Everyone understands all those evens you list are just where Islam's
ideas and practises came from anyway.
It is just that Christianity dumped those attitudes long ago.

In Islam they believe that the Koran cannot be changed, not even a full stop.
So, they still practise what was laid down by Allah and they MUST obey.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 2:27:25 PM
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