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Apprehension about Islam : Comments

By Babette Francis, published 8/3/2017

It is important to draw a distinction between

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LEGO

Did you actually READ my comments? If you had, you might have noticed that my viewpoint is not the one-dimensional caricature that you have lumped me with.
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 11 March 2017 11:52:03 PM
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I have read all of your comments on this topic, Killarney. And your main premise appears to be, that Muslims have a perfect right to barge into western countries in their millions, because everything that is going wrong in the Muslim world is all the fault of the West, and the US in particular.

I reject that parallel universe worldview entirely.

I read your shallow arguments supporting that premise, and I find your logic to be mind boggling. You even defended that slime ball Ghadhafi who gave arms to the IRA, had his agents bomb US military facilities Germany which killed US servicemen, had his agent bomb a US airliner which killed two US/Greek women, had his agents shoot dead a female British police officer from the grounds of the Libyan embassy in London, and who was instrumental in the Lockerbie airline bombing, which killed 270 innocent people.

And you love the guy? Go figure.

Your analysis of the Afghan war is somewhere south of fairy land. The USSR invaded Afghanistan and Soviet paratroopers stormed the presidential palace and shot dead the country's President, a President who would not do what Moscow ordered. What resulted was a Afghan rebellion which they were losing until the West stepped in to help the Afghans repel the invasion. Helping a poverty stricken people repulse a straight out military invasion from a totalitarian regime who wanted to absorb Afghanistan into the Soviet empire, I would have thought would have won the West some respect and gratitude.

Leaving aside the fact that some Mujahidin like Shah Massoud were very pro western (which was why the Taliban assassinated him), there are strange people in this world called "Muslims", to which the concept of gratitude has little meaning. And strange people called "lefties" who can always find a way to depict any noble western gesture as always having sinister overtones.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 12 March 2017 9:54:21 AM
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Is Islam our greatest danger?

Probably not, I could handle wearing funny clothes, having dirty feet, & praying in some strange direction a couple of times a day.

Infact Islam may be our saviour.

The greatest dangers the western world face are the militant lefty woman's lib movement, ratbag greenery, & political correctness. Each, or worse all of these are likely to do a great deal more damage to the well being & living standards of the average citizen of the west, than any takeover by Islam.

In fact one could perhaps see the recent growth of Islam as a development designed to save us from our growing stupidity.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 12 March 2017 11:15:22 AM
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Good boy Hasbeen, your onto it. Exactly right!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 12 March 2017 7:58:27 PM
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There is not enough thought and debate about who is the "real" enemy of Australia...guaranteed it is NOT Muslims or their radical terrorists!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 12 March 2017 8:03:14 PM
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LEGO

I’m sorry but I don’t go for treating politically complex issues like a football grand final – barrack for one team, wear the team colours, sit in the designated stands and sing the designated songs. Only one team wins, and then it’s all over for another year. Politics is not that simple.

‘And your main premise appears to be, that Muslims have a perfect right to barge into western countries in their millions, because everything that is going wrong in the Muslim world is all the fault of the West, and the US in particular.’

If you had properly read my comments, you’d know that is not what I am saying. I DON’T want Muslims barging into Western countries. I want Muslims to stay in their own countries – not because I dislike Muslims or Islam (even though I don’t like Islam as a religion or culture), but because people belong in the countries of their birth, culture, heritage and traditions. Conversely, the populations of Western countries should not be continually forced to accept waves of migration by exotic foreigners whose cultures and belief systems are hopelessly at odds with the destination culture. The departure culture also suffers a brain-drain and the untold suffering of families separated by emigration.

Although I am left-leaning in my overall politics, I reject all this sanctimonious ‘You are welcome here’ stuff.

On other issues raised, I too shared your views about Ghaddafi. However, during the 2011 overthrow of his regime, I started reading more about the man. The more I read, the more I came to see that his rule over Libya (shared with five other visionary collaborators, who have since all been assassinated or tortured to death by the Nato-backed Islamist takeover) took the country from the fourth poorest on Earth to the richest, socially equal and most progressive country in Africa and on a par with most Western countries. Some of the terrorist claims you make are valid, but others, such as Lockerbie, are trumped-up charges based on planted evidence and bribed witnesses (all of whom have recanted).
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 13 March 2017 2:33:46 AM
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