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By Najla Turk, published 16/2/2017

I am your ordinary, middle-class, working mother that happens to be a practising Muslim who profoundly opposes terrorism and is ardently seeking harmony.

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I will repost what I said
"My personal hostility is for your Imams. I saw a letter from them yesterday opposing terrorism (It said). It was the Immams complaining that ISIS was targetting them lol! We should be stopping all foreign imams coming here with their seventh century beliefs. Also the coppers should not be ringing up the imam telling they are strolling down in an hour or two to search the Mosque, just do their job!"
No hostility to the author but cannot she see those filthy imams are only interested in their own safety and they lead her and her religion? The coppers are certainly outside her remit but her and her religion threaten them with accusations of "Homophobia". It is anything but an irrational fear, muslims kill!
Posted by JBowyer, Friday, 17 February 2017 5:38:49 PM
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You read Najila Turk's article and you wonder, just who does she think she is kidding?

Islam is a terrorism advocating religion started by a caravan raiding armed robber, who was also a paedophile and a mass murderer. He put to death 800 Jewish men who refused to convert to his newly invented evil religion. Far from being "extremists" the Jihadis and Ghazis (those who kill an infidel) currently committing acts of terrorism around the world are doing exactly what the Koran instructs, and which Mohamad did himself. Until you Muslim focus upon that fact and start to reform your evil religion, Muslims will continue to be the most despised, dysfunctional, and feared group of people on this planet.

One suspects that the reason for your article is to reassure the infidels that Islam is benign, when everybody with a brain knows that this is just not so. The recent Q&A program where some taxpayer funded Muslim activist claimed that Islam was a feminist friendly religion, is a perfect example of a statement more worthy of hilarity that serious consideration.

The western world is beginning to wake up to the cancer we have allowed to enter our societies through ignorance and misplaced idealism. Muslims were never able to conquer the West through military means, so the Imam's have figured out that immigration and birth rate differentials will eventually achieve the same outcome. There are video's on YouTube where the Imam's brag about doing just that.

But the western world is waking up, and the Imams are worried that sooner or later, the West will do the smart thing and ban Muslim immigration. That will put the kybosh on their dreams of world domination. So we have a Muslim like Najila writing puff pieces which only appeal to useful idiots, and those people who consider their vanity of moral superiority to be more important than their own civilisation's survival
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 17 February 2017 5:55:38 PM
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Najla,

It is claimed that

"The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter."

Is this true?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 17 February 2017 6:28:54 PM
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Dear Phanto,

«But that wasn't one of the questions. Why do you need to tell us that?»

To correct an inaccurate statement of yours, claiming:

«What you and the author of this article are appealing for is to be left unfettered in your quest for your drug.»

.

«In fact your whole post seems like a rationalisation of your own misery»

I understand that this is how it seems to you, but this is not the case and I am not in misery.

«Why can't you just accept that there are people in the world who are happy? Why should that be such a threat to you or to any religious person?»

On the contrary: Patanjali states in his Yoga Sutras [1:33] that the best attitude towards those who are happy is friendliness.
http://www.athayoganusasanam.com/index.php?zone=browse_sutras&pada=1&sutra=33&action=display

That aside, there remains the question of how long can your happiness last. If your happiness depends on fleeting external things, then once those change, so does your happiness.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 17 February 2017 6:44:02 PM
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//It is claimed that

"The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter."

Is this true?//

It's funny, because when you quote awful, immoral stuff from the Bible people say 'Ah, but, you're judging them the wrong way. You should at look at how they behave - not some silly old book'.

But when Muslims go out of their way to point out that they - if not all Muslims - embrace a creed of tolerance, peace and good citizenship, people suddenly revoke that notion. Bugger what they do, their Book has bad stuff in it, so they're all bad.

It's a bit irritating to people like me who like things to be consistent: how should we judge a religion? By its Book, or by the conduct of its followers? Decide on a metric and stick with it, because the constant chopping and changing is tiresome.

While I'm on the subject of things that are tiresome, I'm a bit over all this 'taqiyya' crap. I mean, that's just a bit too convenient for the haters: if a Muslim says they're bad, they're bad, and if they say they're good, they're lying and therefore bad. When you get right down to it, it's just plain old question-begging: it assumes the issue in question (Muslims are bad). It's a shite argument.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 17 February 2017 7:08:23 PM
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Toni,

The awful stuff in the Bible is not required practice for Christians but it would seem that the awful stuff in the Koran is current practice.
If the Koran is to be believed and one would think that Muslims are believers, then taqiyya is current belief.

Would some Muslim poster care to point out if it is not and why so.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 17 February 2017 7:33:13 PM
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