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Trump-Netanyahu meeting set to expose Obama’s collusion on Resolution 2334 : Comments

By David Singer, published 14/2/2017

Netanyahu's visit to the White House presents the perfect opportunity to personally hand his evidence to President Trump.

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Dear David,

I have already answered your question. Some Arabs left of their own volition. Whether it was most of them I can't say. However, it was a war zone. Some fled. There were various motives. One can flee a war zone in fear that something bad may happen to you and your family. It seems reasonable that that was the motive for some. They could have been afraid of the armies on both sides. Now please answer my question. Why did the new Israeli government not let those who fled return to their homes? Fleeing in fear or for other motives is not doing wrong. The Israeli government in not letting them return did do wrong. I suspect that the new state wanted to be ensured of a Jewish majority which is why those who fled were not allowed to return.

After the Holocaust some Jews who survived returned to their homes but found they were not allowed to live in them again as others had taken them over. Jews now could do the same to others. Please answer. Why could those who fled their homes in what was then Palestine not return to their homes when the war was over?
Posted by david f, Saturday, 25 February 2017 10:10:54 PM
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#davidf

I don't intend answering your question which I have now asked you three times until you answer mine

I have presented you with contemporary evidence from Arab sources confirming the majority of the Arabs fled as a result of the urging of their own leaders, together with supporting evidence from Benny Morris and Yuyutsu.

You have not provided a tittle of evidence to support your claim that some Arabs fled of their own volition but not a majority.

If you want to have any credibility then produce some evidence to support your claim.

Come on David stop playing games and just admit you were in error and we can then continue our discussion.

The question once again:

Are you prepared to now admit that the Arabs fleeing Palestine did so mainly of their own volition?
Posted by david singer, Saturday, 25 February 2017 10:46:16 PM
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Everyone who flees an invasion of well armed foreign murderers does so of his or her own volition, unless they were kidnapped and bundled on to exit trucks.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 26 February 2017 1:55:07 PM
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#Emperor

Your Jew-hatred seems to know no bounds.

Do me a favor.

Switch off for one hour spewing out your vitriolic and offensive comments and watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maMSb8ZIHVE

I am more than happy to watch a video of your choosing showing similar achievements emanating from any of the 57 Islamic States world wide.

Shucks - maybe you might one day become a beneficiary of some of the discoveries shown on this video - if you are not already..

Sit down and marvel - and get that hate out of your system.

You will feel much better.
Posted by david singer, Sunday, 26 February 2017 2:33:58 PM
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Everyone,

«The Israeli government in not letting them return did do wrong. I suspect that the new state wanted to be ensured of a Jewish majority which is why those who fled were not allowed to return.»

To the extent that this was indeed the motive, this sounds terrible!

It is one thing to create a space where one can try to live only with like-minded people - but quite another to forcibly drive away former innocent residents of that space.

However, if the above motivation is slightly different then it could be quite valid:

Change "to be ensured of a Jewish majority" into "to be ensured of having no majority of such people who want to kill you, your family and your community".

Which was the case in 1948?

The material result might be the same, but the motive could be quite different and make a world of difference between right and wrong, so can we tell what was in the Israeli-leadership's heart of hearts at the time, and even now?

I don't really know, but I think that it was a mixed bag, I think that there was much confusion and both motivations lived side-by-side.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 26 February 2017 6:20:13 PM
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"Your Jew-hatred seems to know no bounds."

The Uber-racist David Singer again seeks unsuccessfully to disguise his racism by accusing people calling it out as "Jew haters", and references to scientific and medical advances in the seized enclave of Israel. In the same way the British colonialists could refer to their achievements compared with the natives to justify their armed possession of Rhodesia. While it lasted.

The fine detail of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine (Plan Dalet) by armed foreign invaders is given at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus and many other sources. It is described also for example in an excellent book on the events by Professor Ilan Pappe (The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine) bringing the usual chorus from the likes of Mr Singer of "Jew hatred" (or in that case "self-hatred").

Anyone fooled even momentarily by Zionist lies such as those peddled by Mr Singer should do some homework.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Sunday, 26 February 2017 6:55:41 PM
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