Hey Killarney,
"Yeah, third-wave feminism is really burning out fast, isn't it?"

I bet that's what the second wave 'lets fabricate stories about rape' feminists were telling themselves too.

The fact you didn't support Clinton gives to cause to think that maybe you can think for yourself.
But the fact you identify as a 'feminist' truly makes me believe you're prone to irrational thought and that entering into a discussion with you on some topics would be foolish and pointless.
Since you're willing to push your arguments I'll give you my honest opinion.
Don't think of this as an argument or a discussion - I'm not going around in circles with someone who wont admit when the other side makes a fair point, so think of it as a statement.

The first little mistake you made was making a statement and assuming it was true.
Feminists seem to do that a lot, it's irrational.
You'd have 'learned more' and 'not further entrenched your irrational beliefs' - if you had simply asked why I think third wave feminism fail... I just wanted to firstly point that out.
'Irrational' sums up the feminist movement perfectly.
It's the reason that I predict third wave feminism will fail.

Do you want the good news or the bad news?
Everyone wants the bad news first so I'll start there.
The bad news is third wave feminism will burn out and fail for the exact same reasons the first two movements did.
The problem in my opinion is that you are lead by 'disgruntled and irrational mentalcases'.
It the reason for both feminism's success and inevitable failure.

The movement wouldn't get off the ground if not for 'disgruntled and irrational mentalcases' and that is the same reason its failure is inevitable, people start to see that irrationality and discard your movement entirely.
It's a built in problem of the movements fundamentals.

The good news (for you) is that although the failure of third wave feminism, (like previous attempts) is inevitable; the rise of fouth wave feminism is also inevitable.
[tbc]

[cont.]
Feminism is essentially a 'vicious cycle', that hasn't yet been perfected.
This is because (in my opinion) all the feminist movements arguments are completely flawed.
Lets talk about some of them.

Well start wil the big one, domestic violence towards women.
What do you think the 'female' version of domestic violence might be?
In my opinion, that would be 'manipulation and emotional backmail'
Which is one of the things that pushes normal men in relationships into a corner and causes them to lash out.

You can't have a complete argument on DV without also discissing 'manipulation and emotional blackmail'.

Here's a working theory.
Women fall for the wrong guy, try to save and rescue (manipulate and emotionally blackmail), man gets pushed into a corner, woman gets mistreated and discarded for it, gets older realises she wasted her life and becomes resentful towards men.
'Always do as you've always done, always get what you always got.'
Now stupid women who didn't learn, are trying to emotionally blackmail the whole of society, and they are going to get handed their marching orders again.

Gender pay gap whinge = An irrational blanket victimisation of all men.
Most people (men and women) get award wages and are on an hourly rate.
If employers could fire men and hire women at a lower cost, they would.
Stop blaming all men, it's irrational.

Maternity Leave.
Don't you realise if I'm an employer and I have to face a potential extra liability in paid maternity leave that I now have a business related reason to NOT hire you?
I'm going to hire male staff to avoid that potential liability.
You create the inequality yourselves that will lean to you not being hired you will later blame on men.
Irrational.

[cont.]
Rape Culture.
There's no rape culture.
Rape is not seen highly in modern civil society, it's frowned upon.
People that commit rape go to jail.
The only thing that falls into the category of 'rape culture' is 'Gangsta Rap' which is predominantly African American.
You wouldn't speak out about that, because it might be seen as racist.
Stop blaming all men.

Doesn't matter how many women turnout to the women march you'll likely never represent anything more than a minority.
You wanna know why?
Because you put a large blanket of blame on all men, when the real truth is that you will always be outnumbered by women who do love men and can't live without them.

Do you see and understand the points I'm making?
I hope so, because in my opinion feminism will continue to rise and fall powered by 'irrationality' until it actually perfects its message.
But then the question is do they really want to perfect their message?
Or are the women just being used as 'useful idiots' to vent their own frustrations and deliberately cause disharmony and civil unrest for other peoples agendas.

You be the judge Killarney, it's your life.
Make the most of it.

Armchair Critic

Bingo! It’s always just a matter of time before an anti-feminist trips all over his own triggers. Hell hath no fury like an anti-feminist who fails to keep a feminist in her place.

Phanto

Fair enough. Let’s respectfully agree to disagree. At least you kept your final comment to me short, rational and on-topic. See you on another thread.

Killarney,
I rarely hold my opinions back, and I've not hidden the fact on this forum that I think the feminist movement is a bunch of crazed harpies, but I've seen you dig yourself a hole before pushing your feminist crap and then getting upset and accusing everyone of bullying you.

Anti-feminist? No.
That's just a word feminists use to describe someone who doesn't go along with their silly rubbish.
I wouldn't really consider myself an anti-feminist.
That would give you all too much credit; like I wake up each day for the purpose of holding feminists to account.
Honestly your lot doesn't really rate past 'clown' status.

But just so you know, if you care to scroll back up the page, you'll see that I commented directly after JKJ was badgering you with all those questions.
I was actually trying to do you a favour, taking the pressure off you and changing the subject despite the fact they were good questions.
Then you started with your stupid feminist talking points about the cost of bombs etc.
Who says I even support those wars?
- So the government does something that both major parties support leaving citizens no choice but to be involved in US wars, and you think that's a worthwhile argument to use in support of paid abortion?
That's like saying the government spends millions in foreign aid, therefore I deserve a brand new car to replace the one I wrote off.
Newsflash... It don't make sense.

[tbc.]

[cont.]
So I see you dig holes for yourself in arguments, then get flustered and try to blame or accuse others of bullying you or anything to flip the script, so as to never ever admit anything that might fall outside of your hive mind brainwashing.
And so I went out of my way for you a second time, to try to give you some insight to try to let you see things from a different point of view, but you think its a personal attack.
But then of course you would, you're a feminist, everything's a personal attack in your world.

The whole thing went right over your head.
It's not my fault you can't take an honest opinion, or that the truth hurts.
I even told you how to make the movement actually work so that people won't see you as fools.

And so I got to thinking about the stupid aspects of your movement, and I came up with a real cracker.
This one takes you out of the 'demented nutcases' category, and straight into the 'just plain pathetic' category.

Here goes:
By identifying as feminists, you're telling others your whole existence involves holding men to account.
Guess what? You've WILLINGLY surrendered your whole existence to men, idiots.

Good luck with feminism, you'll certainly need it.
Last time I try to do you a favor btw.