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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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There is no such thing as same sex marriage, marriage is a union between a man and a woman. There is no valid argument against that. It is established by definition.
We should consider what the activist perverts say about marriage.
The lesbian activist Gessen says:”” Gay marriage is a lie.”
• “Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there.”
• “It’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.” (This statement is met with very loud applause.)
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/29/lesbian-activists-surprisingly-candid-speech-gay-marriage-fight-is-a-lie-to-destroy-marriage/
“Homosexual activist and pornographer Clinton Fein echoes Gessen's candid sentiments: "Demand the institution [of marriage] and then wreck it," he once wrote. "James Dobson was right about our evil intentions," he quipped. "We just plan to be quicker than he thought."
http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectives/matt-barber/2015/08/17/the-gay-marriage-gauntlet-time-to-choose
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 2:41:22 PM
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phanto, the point was that same-sex marriage is not illegal and same-sex couples can and do get married.

You then somehow misdirected the issue to 'recognition'. As you did raise the issue I'll play along as I'm bored. Heterosexual couples get the ultimate recognition of their 'union'...that of the 'state' and all the protections and privileges under law that gives. They also get the non-state sanctioned recognition of family and friends. Is that not one of the purposes of having a marriage ceremony...the symbolic recognition of a union supposedly entered into for life?
Posted by minotaur, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 3:01:13 PM
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minotaur:

“As you did raise the issue I'll play along as I'm bored.”

Well I am not here to amuse you or be patronised by you. Either my questions were valid in the first place in which case you should treat them with the respect that all genuine questions on this forum deserve or you should ignore them.

You have responded to them now but not because you have acknowledged them out of respect but to pacify your boredom. So you still have not put up or shut up
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 5:55:51 PM
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It appears Leo Lane is providing evidence of my negative social change assertions and you can find plenty of other examples if you do your research, such as what has happened in the (small minority of) countries that have legalised SSM (and other countries have rejected legalising SSM as well)- people in all good conscience, in lands that are supposed to have freedom of speech and religion, who oppose SSM and the gender fluidity myth (if you do your research you will find that it is all part of the same agenda)dragged before courts, fined thousands of dollars or threatened with jail. Lets not forget that the issue came before the supreme court in America ( and SSM was legalised only by the narrowest of margins) only because many states held referendums on it and the majority said No but the Gay lobby would not accept the will of the people in a democracy. That is one reason it is important to note that most of the hate and intimidation in this debate is coming from the supporters of SSM because it is the behaviour of intolerant bully-persons who won't allow dissenting voices or people who know they are wrong and trying to hide that from coming out.
Oh, and: "fallacy" (noun)- 'incorrect, misleading opinion or argument, flaw in logic' That defines AJP's assertions, not mine, sorry.
Posted by maricus, Friday, 9 December 2016 9:15:04 AM
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The gullibility of those (including politicians, journos, business leaders) who capitulate to the homosexual lobby push for SSM, never ceases to amaze.
Posted by Raycom, Friday, 9 December 2016 10:23:02 AM
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Oh boy, the comedy factor of this forum just ratcheted right up...phanto you pale into insignificance thanks to maricus who uses Leo Lane as a poster boy of great and convincing argument. Things get even better when stating AJ Philips has flawed arguments and maricus doesn't. Well, that claim does have some truth to it given maricus has no arguments of substance.

Then to top things off, just when you thought it couldn't get anymore absurd, along comes Raycom with nothing but an empty statement. Phanto, you have been saved by those with such a lack of substance you can almost feel the vacuum of intellect!
Posted by minotaur, Friday, 9 December 2016 10:42:09 AM
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