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The media's stereotyping of men : Comments

By Peter West, published 18/10/2016

Our media are fond of attacking gender stereotyping. Time and again we see some program about a pattern in society. Maybe it's women footballers.

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sheesh phanto, of course I offered advice, why on earth would I not?

It's in her gift to accept or not, all I can do is offer.
Posted by Craig Minns, Saturday, 22 October 2016 5:21:58 PM
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Why on earth would you unless you were arrogant? No one asked for your advice nor is this the place where people come for advice on their 'approach'. You abuse the forums for your own personal needs. There is absolutely no logical reason why you would give advice to someone else about how they conduct themselves on these forums.

If there is a good reason then tell us all why you think you should give advice to people on how they should behave in these forums?

You haven't been able to do that.
Posted by phanto, Saturday, 22 October 2016 5:32:51 PM
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Because I'm helpful?
Posted by Craig Minns, Saturday, 22 October 2016 5:37:35 PM
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well lets talk anout Tostee another dubious male specimen.

I believe when that girl was begging in terror to be allowed to go home.

She knew he was going to kill her. That the type of thing I think most people would say to a serial killer when they know they'll never see the people they love again

Its isnt a plea to go home its a plea for her lfe.
Just listen to the absolute hopeless, terror in her voice.
She was throwing things at him to stop him doing what he threatened,to throw her off the balcony

Too much of a coincidence, that he threatens to throw her off the balocny and thats where she ends up hanging, off the balcony rail.

He locked that balcony door later in my belief.
She wanted to go home, so why didnt he simply call a taxi and let her go home,
why was he keeping her there.
He says he locked her out there because she was attacking him, really? have a look at the size of that skinny little girl to him. He could have held her off with one hand.

This is haunting me, because the only thing that is obviously factual is the pitiful
terror in her voice as she asks to be allowed to go home. Anything he says cant be proven. Why does he decide to take a recording of this without showing what happened previously to make this girl so terrified and hysterical trying to escape from him. It was calculated to make her look guilty of her own death. He throws in the physco bitch thing. Why the hell do you grab a phone and start recording this when all you have to do is call a taxi and let the girl go home.
The one thing,that doesnt and cant lie in this, is the piteous plea from this girl to be allowed to go home. The terror in her voice is real. Anything he says or does afterwards cant be proven to be real, it is only his version of what happened.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 22 October 2016 7:58:28 PM
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Phanto

CM is clearly showing that he will not back down from his self-appointed righteousness. He's clearly stepped out of line, not only in his arrogance and personal abusiveness of me, but in his MO to keep upping the ante when he is called out on his behaviour and asked to stop.

Unfortunately, as an online control mechanism, sustained personal abuse actually does achieve what it sets out to do. The other feminist-oriented posters - Poirot, Foxy and Susonline - have left the board, for similar reasons, so the OLO gender threads are now little more than a platform to disseminate MRA disinformation, disguised as 'research' (and I've done a lot of 'debunk' posting about this previously), and to share anecdotes to reinforce their negative attitudes to women.

As I'm the only one left, it's really not worth the effort anymore. Graham does try to keep a good balance of progressive and conservative views in the articles, but the general commentariat is overwhelmingly dominated by reactionary, obnoxious misogynists and right-wingers, who are more interested in bullying anyone who does not share their worldview than actual discussion. CM's behaviour is a symptom of this dysfunctionality, not its cause.
Posted by Killarney, Saturday, 22 October 2016 9:51:19 PM
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//If you feel the need to advice people then you should do it somewhere else more appropriate.

If you do not like their approach then you do not have to engage with them...It is reasonable to put up with their approach if you want to engage with their arguments. It is also reasonable to not engage with them at all. It is not reasonable to give them advice since that is not the point of these forums.//

Don't look now phanto, but you're giving advice XD
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 22 October 2016 10:06:18 PM
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