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The media's stereotyping of men : Comments

By Peter West, published 18/10/2016

Our media are fond of attacking gender stereotyping. Time and again we see some program about a pattern in society. Maybe it's women footballers.

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Look at the examples cited in the article, phantom.
How many programs can you name in which these issues are discussed mainly by men:
relationships
family matters, especially when difficult (separation, divorce, tension)
being a parent
raising boys, raising girls
behaviour in the street
behaviour in the gym excluding what to do for strength

That will do for a start......
But read the article again and check off the examples, and references especially Macnamara

Good luck!
Posted by Waverley, Friday, 21 October 2016 10:51:22 AM
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Waverley:

The point is that women are entitled to an opinion. You do not have to agree with their opinion and the author obviously does not. He presents good arguments but he does not need to complain about the fact that those arguments are presented by women or that women have an inordinate control of the media.

You could say that the opinion of those women is ill-informed and their arguments do not stack up but it is irrelevant to say that those opinions are wrong because they have come from women or that women should not have the power in the media which they have won by fair means.

Men can speak up for themselves without having to play the gender card.
Posted by phanto, Friday, 21 October 2016 11:03:54 AM
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Maybe you should read the article again and check that it is saying what it says, not what you think it might be saying or implying.
Sure it's a free country, say what you like: but Macnamara's research is pretty powerful and he's a media analyst. Perhaps he knows his subject, having presented it as a PhD thesis. The article critiques a number of examples. And the criticisms carry some weight.
Just a thought....
Posted by Waverley, Friday, 21 October 2016 5:01:38 PM
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waverley,
what stood out for me was the comments section, which was largely respectful discussion of a topic of mutual interest.

How things have changed on OLO!
Posted by Craig Minns, Friday, 21 October 2016 5:14:10 PM
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Phanto

<“In our media, discussion about men is monitored by, and largely written by, women.”

This is a rather unsubstantiated claim. How can such an argument be proven to be true?>

Exactly. To me, that's the fundamental flaw of the article. If you scrutinise most of the online newspaper sites or newspapers themselves, you find that many, many articles about men's issues and relationships (critical or otherwise) are written by men, especially in the lifestyle pages, weekend supplements and men's mags. And then of course there's sport!

The only areas that I can find, in which female journalists write about men in a critical way is on rape, domestic violence and workplace pay and attitudes.

So, frankly, as I can't accept the basic premise of the article itself, I'm inclined to see it more as reinforcing a 'moralistic mummy' cultural trope that views women as just wanting to be critical of men for its own sake.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 21 October 2016 9:04:35 PM
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Craig Minns

'I've given you some simple straightforward advice about how to improve your approach.'

WHOAH!! That's stepping WAY over the arrogance line, even for you. Why don't you also tell me to sit up straight or don't answer back, like a good little girl?

Look, unlike you, I'm not into psychobabbling people, as I see it as an invasion of people's psychological integrity and space. However, I'll make a notable exception in this case.

Craig ... you have some VERY SERIOUS control issues.

I refuse to pander to control freaks or their bullying behaviour, either online or in my personal life. In future, I'm adopting a DADE policy where you are concerned. Don't answer; don't engage.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 21 October 2016 9:15:46 PM
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