Evidence for negative media images of men?

OK I'll say it again.
Macnamara is a media analyst and he codes media. That's what he does almost every day. His articles for OLO are based on a PhD and years of research. West's article leans naturally on the evidence he cites and also on Macnamara whom he references clearly.

So here is the evidence arranged for any thoughtful person to check:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237629186_HOW_THE_MEDIA_PORTRAY_MEN_A_REVIEW_OF_JR_MCNAMARA'S_MEDIA_AND_MALE_IDENTITY

http://apps.westernsydney.edu.au/news_archive/index.php?act=view&story_id=1792

and finally-

https://theconversation.com/for-fathers-day-give-us-men-who-arent-shown-as-fools-and-clowns-31170

That should be enough I think

It's up to you Killarney, if you regard some well meant advice as some attempt to control you, it says a great deal more about you than me.

My kids used to have a similar reaction to being given advice. They've grown out of it now they're in their late teens.

Craig Minns:

Giving advice presumes that you know better. When you are advising kids it is often because you do know better simply because you are older but when you are talking to adults then you should be able to show how and why you do know better. Your 'advice' to Killarney just presumes that you know better. Why do you know better?

Waverley:

Who are you arguing with? There is plenty of evidence that men are often portrayed negatively in the media by both men and women. What is the point of emphasising the gender of the person who makes the criticism? What matters is the criticism itself and whether or not it is valid. Why would you do this unless you have some other agenda that needs to portray women in a bad light? If you have problems with women then you should address those in the appropriate time and at the appropriate place. Using this discussion to try and attack women is gutless. Presenting an argument in opposition to their opinions is the only reasonable behaviour to adopt in the forum.

Can't you distinguish between what is being said and the person saying it? Was Madam Curie wrong because she was a woman?

No Phanto, it doesn't assume I "know better". In this case it simply means that I've observed a pattern of behaviour that seems to be working counterproductively and I've pointed it out.

I'm not saying "you must", I'm simply saying "I suggest".

It's unfortunate that some people are unable to accept even suggestions without getting worked up. In young teens it's reasonable, in adults it's sad.

Just a suggestion. Perhaps some of you who write so assiduously could write your own article and submit to OLO or The Conversation or Crikey.
That might be satisfying for you, perhaps.
Just saying.....

Craig Minns:

“In this case it simply means that I've observed a pattern of behaviour that seems to be working counterproductively and I've pointed it out.”

You could have done that but you went further and issued advice. Why do you feel the need to give advice? The only thing that is relevant are the arguments put forth. The point of the forum is to discuss ideas not to give advice to other posters about their ‘approach’. If you feel the need to advice people then you should do it somewhere else more appropriate.

If you do not like their approach then you do not have to engage with them. The fact that you do give advice is obviously an attempt to meet some personal need you have since there can be no other logical reason for doing so. It is reasonable to put up with their approach if you want to engage with their arguments. It is also reasonable to not engage with them at all. It is not reasonable to give them advice since that is not the point of these forums.