Perhaps you two would like to carry this on around the back of the bike shed?

I joined up here hoping for some relevant and minimal ad hominem discussion in the comments section.

A world made in England 10/08/2016

runner, Saturday, 8 October 2016 11:12:09 AM

"Oh suddenly someone who does not believe in absolutes discovers pedophile is wrong. Amazing logic Pogi."

How shameful for you then that the religion you defend so ineptly does not abide by the same rules and conduct that it so rigorously imposes upon its flock! How shameful are they who conspired in cover-ups and moved offenders to even greener pastures? How shameful are the flock members who chose the offender's word over that of their own children? How utterly shameful are the remaining flock who did nothing, but wring their hands, but hoped the awful episode would end as quickly and as quietly as possible, but prayed tearfully to ensure the validity of their ticket on the glory train even if their kids were molested, but stayed their protest and righteous indignation so that their piety impressed. Little Tommy and David will get over their experiences and if we put our dreadful mistakes out of our mind then maybe God will do the same, just for us of course cuz we are so pious and loving of our god[grovel, grovel].

How shaming of you is it that any individual involved in promoting beliefs that result in such heinous practices is tarred with the same brush, is complicit by omission and/or commission in the creation of this ordurous cess-pit?

Any other so paternalistic, oligarchic organisations as religions are, inviting the nurturing of sexual perversions, of venality, corruption and criminal conduct, would be razed to the ground and their hierarchies stripped of all authority by a decent society
thankful for the opportunity. Unfortunately for a decent society, the criminality and the hypocrisy are so pervasive as to escape notice as such for they appeal to some of the worst aspects of our personalities and are made holy and righteous by decree.

What shameful devices you use that you may maintain your faith.

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." M.L.King jr.

I offer my sincerest apologies for posting my message twice. If management can delete this mistake I would appreciate their doing so.

Babette Francis; 'By labeling your white ancestors as "invaders" you are at war with part of your own heritage.' As an Aboriginal person with dual (or perhaps duel is more apt) heritage of course I label the colonizers as invaders. That is exactly what they did and to not acknowledge that would be to continue the lie of history that Australia was peaceably settled. A lie that was propagated via the Great Australian Silence and the Master Narrative. The very same lie that denied massacres occurred or that lands were stolen, forcibly stolen.

Ms Francis doesn't seem to have much knowledge of Australian history, nor about issues that affect Aboriginal people today (the vast majority of who do speak English as a first language and live in urban and regional areas). She simply speaks with condescending generalizations and has no depth of understanding at all. Yet somehow she seems to believe she can speak with some sort of authority.

People like Ms Francis are part of the problem, not part of any meaningful solution.