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Unsettled Malcolm Roberts queries United Nation's science : Comments

By John Nicol and Jennifer Marohasy, published 16/9/2016

At high altitudes, the greenhouse gases provide the only mechanism for the radiation of heat from the atmosphere to space.

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JF Aus

Go to DSM V or ICD 10 and look at the definition of bipolar disorder, it is one of the most difficult and serious mental health disorders to diagnose. It often takes some time before a Psychiatrist is willing to provide a diagnosis of bipolar disorder.

Should you not be willing to take your comments back about bipolar disorder it displays your willingness to jump to conclusions. That being my underlying reason for becoming involved back in the discussion.
Posted by ant, Sunday, 2 October 2016 9:00:51 AM
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"How about you explain more about cyanobacteria and heat."
It's not up to me to argue your case for you. Dude, how about you do your own job? There's heat from some cyanobacteria in compost, granted. But heat from photosynthesis in water? That's a different thing altogether, and up to you to prove. Basically, you've got nothing. Algae blooms are a *tiny* percentage of the global volumes of water, and do not as far as I can tell have a significant radiative forcing. The maths, dude, the maths! The Radiative Forcing Equation has spelt out the problem for us. It's there, plain to see. CO2 actually, repeatedly, demonstrably traps heat. Always. Every time. By a known quantity per square meter of the earth's surface. The ice caps are melting, the glaciers retreating, the season's changing, the ocean rising, the rain patterns changing. This is not a joke, and for the life of me I don't know why you're mixing up what might be a legitimate *LOCAL* environmental concern about anoxic algal bloom rivers, or some oceanic dead zones, with the immense *GLOBAL* concern about *GLOBAL* warming.

I hear you. Algal blooms are killing certain rivers, or rather, the industrial conditions and over-use of our waterways are leading to algal blooms that are a side effect of our indifference to nature and her habitats. But that's got nothing to do with global warming. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. You've been going on about this for years, and are obsessed with raising it every time we discuss global warming, so I find it hard to believe you're not trying to undermine the peer-reviewed physics of CO2.
Posted by Max Green, Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:36:39 AM
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ant,

I have a friend with bi-polar disorder and he takes tablets prescribed by a doctor. From your comment above it seems you think diagnosis is still required.

You are always demanding evidence.
Do you have evidence of willingness on my part to jump to conclusions? If so let's hear about it.

Why should I take back my justified comment/s of substance?
Look back to the post about being, quote, "REALLY mad".

I think you, ant, are trying to detract discussion away from subject of photosynthetic ocean and lake cyanobacteria algae also having characteristics of bacteria, some of the latter producing warmth in compost.

United Nations science has to be queried because it is incomplete concerning AGW, especially the science is not explaining the heat in SST data that is an anomaly.

It's a pity you are walking away from debate here about possible or not cause of that heat resulting in that anomaly.
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 3 October 2016 5:18:15 PM
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JF Aus

You have no idea how ludicrous your comments about bipolar disorder are!

A Psychiatrist would not make a diagnosis without meeting a patient face to face and spending a considerable time interviewing them; it is likely that a Psychiatric Nurse or Allied Health worker would have taken a full history prior to the Psychiatric interview..

Read about the Dunning-Kruger effect, JF Aus.

You have confirmed that you jump to conclusions without any evidence.
Posted by ant, Monday, 3 October 2016 5:49:48 PM
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ant,

This friend of mine has met face to face and been treated by more than one Psychiatrist.
In fact I have two friends I know with the disorder and we sometimes talk about change in behaviour, change especially when they don't take their medicine.

Give it a break, ant. I don't want to waste my 4x24 hr post limit.
Get on topic, about queries related to UN AGW associated science.
Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 3 October 2016 6:01:13 PM
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JF Aus

My point was that you cannot get bipolar disorder right, it being a reflection on any other comments being unreliable in relation to climate change... warming through algal blooms is a nonsense.
Posted by ant, Monday, 3 October 2016 7:12:54 PM
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