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Unsettled Malcolm Roberts queries United Nation's science : Comments

By John Nicol and Jennifer Marohasy, published 16/9/2016

At high altitudes, the greenhouse gases provide the only mechanism for the radiation of heat from the atmosphere to space.

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HASBEEN. Your second post: pithy, accurate, pssssng in the wind tho old chap, the 'believers' have a religion wherein observations and mathematics are just a fantasy of the delusional.
Jennifer, as a highly qualified and published scientist, it concerns me that you should actually have an opinion at all! Your objection to the BOM spurious adjustments to the actual temperature data is heretical. There orta be a law about that sort of thing. Or perhaps an 'impartial review' by BOM?
Posted by Prompete, Friday, 16 September 2016 1:59:00 PM
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John Ryan,

If it is acceptable for you to call people "climate change nutters" for their beliefs, it is also acceptable for them to call you a moron for your beliefs. There's a good chance that, if you ceased abusing people who don't hold your opinions, they woul not call you a moron.

Because, John, anyone who does call current climate/weather a 'change' when nature is just doing what has always done, is rather moronic.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 16 September 2016 2:07:22 PM
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Been there and done that.

61 pages discuss a Marohasy 'climate science' article where ~97% of the content thoroughy debunks Marohasy's ludicrous claims and delusional beliefs.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18459&page=1

After the 3rd page Marohasy disappeared from 'the scene of the crime' never to be heard of again.

Disappears again at pg3 - is she a Page Girl? :-)
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18490

No, she's more like the French Underground in WW2 - a hit and run merchant, but this time for deceit. All three Nicol, Marohasy, and Abbot need to be classified as 'Terrorising Truth Insurgents' imo.

Take a dump here, take a dump there, then run away to the 'echo chambers' of their religiously held beliefs, totally unable and unprepared to defend themselves.

Gosh, I'd convict them on the sole basis of their profound incompetence alone. Their decades of deceptions and manipulation of readers would merely be icing on the cake.

Where is that "refusal doc" by the Audit Office (ANAO) not to investigate the BOM I asked for? :-)

http://jennifermarohasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Request-Audit-BOM-Marohasy-Ver2.pdf
and
http://jennifermarohasy.com/2016/06/audit-general-dismisses-need-for/

Marohasy Quote: "This requested (sic) was rejected without any consideration of the evidence."

Oh really, how 'terrible that sounds' Marohasy. But you fail to tell your readers precisely why the ANAO rejected your request "without any consideration of the evidence."

Now why would that be Marohasy?

Let's see if you can TELL THE TRUTH, the whole truth and nothing but the truth before I do and make a total liar out of you once and for all forever.

Publish a scan of that rejection letter in full - I dare ya to! :-)

Can you type a truthful response Marohasy without gagging, twitching or blushing bright purple?

aka "how to lie the truth" - research it
http://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=how%20to%20lie%20by%20telling%20the%20truth

Learn about the things in this book:

"Telling Lies: Clues to Deceit in the Marketplace, Politics, and Marriage" by Paul Ekman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ekman
http://www.paulekman.com/
http://www.strategicliving.org/reviews/TellingLies.php

You will then understand and recognise the tools used by Marohasy, and every other climate science denier, fossil fuel PR rep, the unethical paid shills and mentally corrupted incompetent ignorant politicians such as John Howard was and still is!
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Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Friday, 16 September 2016 2:08:10 PM
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Ah so, more radiant heat cooler upper atmosphere? And borne out by measurements of the upper atmosphere above the equator (70C below zero) and above the arctic. (40C below zero) The reason for this phenomena?

Increased retained heat equates to increased global convection and consequently tropical air rising to higher colder limits! And given what goes up must also come down, it does so where it is coldest! You guessed it, over the arctic ice as descending air first warmed by tropical extremes first!

Consequently the inverse reading of the air above the tropics and descending as warmer air above the ice!

! And explains why we seem to be measuring increased wind speeds as the average the world over? And just not possible as evidence of increased global convection, if we are being cooled as alleged by the "climate scientists" who authored this article!

Maybe those pesky martians have a cloaked and extraordinarily powerful wind machine? As separate from the bag of wind blowing big from the depths of the senate?

And likely what you'd expect when there's not enough room for both the man and his overblown, over inflated ego in the same room at the same time?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 16 September 2016 2:36:06 PM
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"The standard hypothesis has, at its core, the unproven assumption that the heat-energy absorbed by the increase in carbon dioxide distributed throughout the atmosphere, leads to re-radiation with half of this re-radiation directed downwards"
This standard hypothesis seems a bit flat earthy. As seen looking side on to a CO2 molecule up high in the air, above our near sphere, would there not be more up than down to radiate at? Thus more than half goes out because five sixths will miss the planet at the EXACT directions of three dimensions. Five directions out of Up, left, right, foward, back and down. The sise of the hit area from any angle between the horizontals and "down" would depend on altitude.
Posted by Siliggy, Friday, 16 September 2016 4:11:57 PM
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"One Nation and Malcolm Roberts queries United Nations" - Pauline Hansen says: "Now we are in danger of being swamped by Muslims, who bear a culture and ideology that is incompatible with our own."

No one who supports One Nation's rhetoric and Policy could rationally support the State of Israel. No one who believes in the values expressed by Roberts and Hansen could logically refuse to support the cause of the Palestinians.

Since the 1930s the Palestinians have been literally "swamped by Jews, who bear a culture and ideology that is incompatible with their own."

No one could fail to be enraged by the fledgling UN deciding to impose a Partition Plan upon the people of Palestine!

What if the UN/UNSC passed a Resolution today to Partition Australia between Muslims and Non-Muslims?

From the start of The 1948 Arab–Israeli War the Jewish leadership in Palestine instigated a systemic pogrom of ethnic cleansing of Palestinian CIVILIANS destroying their homes businesses villages and stealing their property wholesale - telling them to LEAVE their own homeland.

That's a War Crime and a Crime against humanity.

A One Nation supporter would not accept that the UN or Muslims have a right send Australian residents to NZ or Indonesia. Why was it OK for the Jews or UN to that to the Arabs in 1947/48?

You must be a supporter of Palestinian Rights to Self-determination, their LAND and CULTURE as it was in May 1948. No excuses are acceptable.

If such acts are a crime against Australian rights so it was upon civilians living in Palestine in 1947-1948.

So I will look forward to hearing Hansen and Roberts to expose the Myths that Israel is a legitimate nation State in May 1948 and today.

If you are experiencing some unsettled feelings it may be Cognitive Dissonance - "...the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time."
http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/cognitive_dissonance.htm
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There are some who reject facts, logic and ethics instead choosing live inside the fantasy bubble of an ancient belief system.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18514
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Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Friday, 16 September 2016 4:23:37 PM
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