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Meet the family : Comments

By Stuart Horrex, published 1/9/2016

I, like my fiancé, am an Australian citizen, so the natural question is, why should we be forced to leave our own country to get married?

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It seems that you want two things. You want same-sex marriage and you want to get it without being hurt.

You have as much chance of getting SSM as anyone else in a democracy has of achieving their goal. You put forth your case, lobby the appropriate people, and it goes to a vote. This would happen with any case put forward. One of the options in a democracy is to hold a people's vote. When you present your case you do so knowing that this is one of the options. By accepting the principles of a democracy you also accept that your issue may be decided by a people's vote.

Nowhere in amongst those principles of democracy is there a guarantee that you will not be hurt in any part of the process. The process has to be such that it is equally fair to all concerned and a plebiscite is equally fair to all concerned. The democratic principles give everyone the chance to speak their mind. it does not put caveats on what you can say during the debate.

If you do not like what is said to you then you should appeal to any laws that we have in place which can control what is said in debates. Similarly if you get bashed or have acid poured into your drink or your livelihood is threatened etc. then we have laws which are there to protect you. You are only entitled to the same protections as everyone else though and not more protection because you are homosexual.

Crying victim is very manipulative. You have all the protections that anyone can expect in our society so you are no more a victim than anyone else who tries to change legislation. You want the politicians to decide this issue not because it is a better method of applying the principles of democracy but because you are afraid of being hurt. You want the government to give you what no one is entitled to. You want to privileged treatment because you are homosexual. This is 'slippery slope' stuff.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 1 September 2016 10:11:46 AM
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Whatever happens the next big thing in marriage needs to be getting rid of the no fault divorce approach. Family breakdown costs about 14 billion a year which could be spent on schools, hospitals, churches, etc.
Posted by progressive pat, Thursday, 1 September 2016 10:11:59 AM
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You probably have to go overseas if you want to behead someone too, & get away with it.

Why, because the majority of Australians don't want it here.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 1 September 2016 10:16:01 AM
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Some clergy are married to the Church in promiscuity with child-adoption. Architecturally a church steeple and curving doorways are trans gender.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 1 September 2016 10:36:21 AM
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You are not "forced" to do anything. You are part of 1% of Australians who live beyond and outside of normality. Fine. You are able do that in a tolerant society without being jailed, as homsexuals once were; you are in no danger of being stoned or put to death in gruesome ways as you would be in some societies. You and your partner can live in peace, have the exactly the same legal property and inheritance rights as heterosexual, de facto couples. Stop whinging.

There are many people like you who accept that marriage is between a man and a woman, they do not want to 'marry' their partners. They couldn't care less about marriage. More and more heterosexual couples are now raising well adjusted, happy families, without marriage; many into a second relationship avoiding the travails of an unsuccessful previous marriage. Get over it: get on with your life.

And, there is always the chance that you are not who you claim to be, merely another leftist activist attacking society by having a kick at the SSM football. No matter what, you are not deserving of sympathy.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:23:08 AM
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When you demand equality for you and your partner I presume you want equality for everyone, not just gay people.
As such, I am sure you are happy with adult siblings having the right to marry, or a parent marrying a child. And naturally you support the right of a group of people to marry, because after all, they love each other and should have the same rights as you and everyone else.
See, it's simple. We will give every adult the right to marry who they please and everyone will be happy.
Right?
Posted by Big Nana, Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:44:58 AM
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