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When 'Safe Schools' sexualises children, should we be surprised about school porn rings? : Comments

By Wendy Francis, published 22/8/2016

The program includes a 'role-playing game' for 12 year olds which includes students taking on the character of a bisexual who has had 15 sexual partners.

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People with very good imaginations get jobs in the creative arts. For example, you may have seen the actor Mark Hamill pretending to lift an X-Wing fighter out of the swamps of the planet Dagobah using the power of the Force. Given that the Force, the planet Dagobah and X-Wing fighters are all made up, it is reasonable to assume that Mark Hamill was pretending to do something he'd never actually done. Amazingly, he managed to pull of this incredible feat that is pretending to do something he'd never actually done. Who'd'a thunk it? And he wasn't even that good of an actor ;)

People with extraordinary imaginations write conspiracy theories.

//Therefore this 'role playing game' is encouraging 12 year olds to take part in multi-gender sex with numerous partners whilst grossly underaged.//

In the same way that his role in 'The Empire Strikes Back' encouraged Mark Hamill to hitch a ride on a space probe to Dagobah, so that he could actually use the Force to lift an X-Wing out of a swamp?

Get off the ice, dude.

//All this sexual rubbish in schools is merely part of the socialist plan.//

//the damn countries being run by communists//

Yeah, of course. Because it's not 2016, the cold war never ended, and there are still reds under your beds.

For heaven's sake... I know the 80's were great, but it's time to move on, guys. Come up out of the bunkers and enjoy the 21st century.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 5:06:19 PM
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Dear Tony,

«There are people out there who genuinely seem to enjoy stupid and dangerous pastimes»

Yes, and discard any possibility for the wisdom of ages and its transmission. Enjoy first, then suffer many times over later.

So, you decided that nobody can teach you, that you must try everything yourself, put your hand in the fire because you cannot believe what some silly old tottering grandfather mumbles about the experience of generations. They tell you that if you do such-and-such then later you will be sorry - but you laugh. OK, then burn your hand.

And this time I am not going to try to dissuade you: if you send your poor child to a government-funded school to have their head stuffed there with their rubbish, paid for with our stolen tax-money, then I suppose that you both deserve to suffer as your child will come out of that school fooler than how they came in.

«enjoy the 21st century»

No pleasure there for me. In my younger years I toyed with the idea of physical immortality, but now I am so glad that I did not pursue that path and will not be around to see most of this ignominious century. You will not need to suffer my admonitions for long now.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 7:58:54 PM
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Hey Toni,
I'm totally flattered by the trouble you've gone to on this. Lol

Clearly Mark Hammil pretending to lift his x-wing fighter out of the swamp with the power of the 'force' is not in any way different whatsoever to 12 year old kids 'role playing' bisexuals who have frequent drunken unprotected sex with numerous partners...

But for all your trouble you're almost winning me over just a little anyway.
...Almost.

In some ways, having them talk about all this stuff openly BEFORE they get a little older and potentially find themselves in that situation does have a lot of merit. I'll give you that.
(But parents should really be the ones to managing this responsibility, not governments and other kids in classrooms.)
And I'll also accept that there's really no easy way to hide porn from kids anymore in the information age.

So why do I object?
Maybe part of me thinks they should be left to figure things out in their own time rather than have all this stuff pushed on them.
It's as if 'ding' "You're now of eligible age, time for government sanctioned bisexual sex classes."

The Australian Chinese community came out with an interesting petition today.
"One thing that our migrant communities have in common is that they won't allow anyone interfering with their parental rights, and programs like Safe Schools represent an attack on the rights of all parents..."
The petition says the program "discriminates against children and parents from other cultures who have a view of sexual relationships involving male and female as normative".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-23/safe-schools-mp-lodges-petition-against-program-signed-by-17000/7777030
I think they make a reasonable argument.

One problem I see however is that gays will simply say they are being discriminated against for being different anyway.
They object to the idea that their behavior is not considered normal and they will always keep pressing the issues further.

Mr Soros' Get-up! crowd would probably find the one single gay chinese kid and make him a poster child of repression at the hands of the shameful and intolerant Chinese community.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 9:37:53 PM
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Alan B "I believe the source of most of this confected outrage comes from folk whose own (unhealthy) attitude to normal healthy sex and sexual development, is fundamentally warped askew, are the ones having all the (dirty minded) problems!?"

Bizarre logic. So it's not those who are sexualising children that are warped, rather, it's those who do not want children sexualised that are warped. As I said, bizarre logic
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 1:47:09 AM
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Toni Lavis "Yeah, of course. Because it's not 2016, the cold war never ended, and there are still reds under your beds."

The 'Safe Schools' program was written by those educated in post-structural philosophy, who all lean left socially and economically.

"For heaven's sake... I know the 80's were great, but it's time to move on, guys. Come up out of the bunkers and enjoy the 21st century."

Bizarre. So it's okay to sexualise children because it's "the 21st century"? Is this even an argument? Are you sexually attracted to children? You and Alan B sound like people who need to be kept an eye on.
Posted by Aristocrat, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 1:52:41 AM
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"The program includes a 'role-playing game' for 12 year olds which includes students taking on the character of a bisexual who has had 15 sexual partners."

How can you take on the 'role' of a bisexual? Bisexuality is not a role - it is a set of feelings which you cannot possibly imagine unless you are one. Whenever people of minority sexualities are challenged about their sexuality they admonish their challengers based on the claim that unless you are one you cannot know what it is like so you are not free to have an opinion.

How can anyone who is not bisexual imagine feeling bisexual? It is an insult to bisexuals to suggest that their sexuality is so simplistic that you can easily imagine what it is like.

In a true role play you have to imagine how the person you are playing feels. You can really only do this if you have experienced those feelings - like, fear and anger which everyone can relate to. Only bisexuals can relate to bisexual feelings.

So what is the purpose of these role-playing games? Is it to try and show 12 year olds that bisexuals who have had 15 sexual partners is quite normal? If that is the case then a role play is a very poor method of teaching that truth. Just tell them it is normal. Present it as a fact and give them reasons why it should be accepted as a fact. That is all they need to know.

Perhaps these educators are not trying to teach but to manipulate. They are trying to get kids to feel like a bisexual feels because they are not confident in their reasons for bisexuality. They are trying to avoid having to explain why bisexuality is reasonable. You cannot get anyone to feel like a bisexual.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 9:44:49 AM
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