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China and Australia: the whale and the tadpole : Comments

By Peter West, published 11/8/2016

Chinese social media begged 'Sun, don't cry', went mad over Horton's comments and bombarded his social media accounts with demands for an apology.

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Hollywood hoax ? They were in jail. Carl Foreman was the initial screenwriter for "Bridge on River Kwai", but Lean replaced him with Michael Wilson. Both writers had to work in secret, as they were on the Hollywood blacklist and had fled to England in order to continue working.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 21 August 2016 3:32:03 PM
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The tadpole wiggles its tail:
But in 2015, documents obtained under Freedom of Information revealed Australia opposed the ban on nuclear weapons, since it believed it relied on US nuclear weapons as a deterrent.

“As long as the threat of nuclear attack or coercion exists, and countries like the DPRK [North Korea] seek these weapons and threaten others, Australia and many other countries will continue to rely on US extended nuclear deterrence,” said one of the briefing notes for government ministers.
Toady, Oz alone rejected the treaty being signed and brought on a vote. Kim Jong-Un was not available for comment but Julie Bishop was.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 21 August 2016 5:09:49 PM
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Blimey Charlie these arguments go on endlessly..are we arguing about China or Japan?
: )
Posted by Waverley, Sunday, 21 August 2016 10:04:59 PM
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Japan is inside the heritage fishing waters of China and is closing down.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 22 August 2016 11:35:21 AM
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Nick,

"Inside the heritage fishing waters of China" ?! Do you realise that every party of the coastline of south-east Asia (and northern Australia) has been traditionally fished by fishermen from every other part ? There were probably Japanese and Thai and Indigenous Taiwanese and Cham fishermen throughout everybody's waters hundreds of years ago, as there were Javanese and Timorese fishermen along our north coast. Probably Indian and Burmese fishermen in all those waters too.

Don't buy the imperialist rationale of China, of all countries: apart from the 1420s under the Muslim admiral Cheng He, about the only time that China was interested in the oceans, China has been a sea-fearing, land-oriented empire. The emperors burnt his maps when he returned from Africa. Most of China's trade was probably handled by Arab, Indian, Thai and other traders from what is now Indonesia: there were mosques and at least one Hindu temple in Canton back then.

China is trying something that hardly any other imperialist power has had the cheek to try before: to claim an entire Sea as its own domestic territory, on the pissy grounds that some of its boats may have once fished in those waters. Like everybody else in the region did.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:14:18 PM
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Mr. West,
PS
I am sorry to cut into the China debate again. Mich wrote three replies to Alan Dale Daniel's comment, Good But Partisan, May 12 2012, on Freedom Betrayed, amazon usa. I hope they will interest you.
Posted by Michi, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:40:59 PM
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