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China and Australia: the whale and the tadpole : Comments
By Peter West, published 11/8/2016Chinese social media begged 'Sun, don't cry', went mad over Horton's comments and bombarded his social media accounts with demands for an apology.
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Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 11 August 2016 12:57:30 PM
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This spat with China highlights the stupidity of Australia.
We have well overpopulated the country through immigration, and we now rely on selling something most of the world does not want to support the excess population. We make a trade surplus with mainly three countries, China, Japan and South Korea, and when trading with the rest of the world, we make a trade deficit. But due to the overpopulation, we must keep selling coal and iron ore to China, while China has little regard for Australia. As we continue to overpopulate the country through immigration, our dependency on China will only increase, and Australia can do less and less regards China's negative attitude towards Australia. Posted by interactive, Thursday, 11 August 2016 2:46:20 PM
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It's just been announced.
2pm Thursday 11th. Scott Morrison has stopped sale of the Ausgrid Network to a Chinese buyer. NSW Premier Baird will be unhappy. Maybe Morrison was expecting that One Nation and Xenophon would have a lot to say about this?? Well we have to retain control of our vital assets... Posted by Waverley, Thursday, 11 August 2016 3:03:57 PM
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this is the reference re Ausgrid and Scott Morrison:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasurer-scott-morrison-blocks-sale-of-ausgrid-to-foreign-bidders-20160811-gqq5te.html? Posted by Waverley, Thursday, 11 August 2016 3:05:05 PM
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In relation to the most important issue which is the alleged Chinese Denial of Service (DoS) attacks on Swimming Australia and the Census:
Yes Swimming Australia is a likely DoS from China target. I'm not convinced China would gain from DoSing the Census. The Census DoSing could as easily have been Haktivists/Anonymous from the US and Australia. Turnbull's lot reported the DoS was from US but then Turnbull's lot automatically concluded China was at fault. A Haktivists/Anonymous DoS of the Census would have been equally or more likely. This is so much more embarrassing for Turnbull because it would tie in with popular Australian opposition to the Census. With Australians using US servers-helpers to do something about the Census. My knowledge of Cyber and DoS matters goes back to 2007 - see my COVER STORY article: "The fifth battle domain - cyberspace" at http://www.newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=2999 The above benefitted from an extended study of Chinese and Russian malware and DoS attacks. Ably assisted by discussions with a US contact from US Army Cyber/SigInt from 2008. Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 12 August 2016 2:33:42 PM
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Confirming the accuracy of my comment above re the Denial of Service (DoS) attack against the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) Census on Tuesday:
our Government is steadily confirming the attack started in Australia-then via US servers-hit the ABS. Hence no China involvement with the Census, just an Australian public mass action against the Census. SkyNews reported today (August 12, 2016) http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2016/08/12/no-resignations-yet-over-census-debacle.html “Mr Turnbull told reporters [today] the attacks appeared to have originated in the United States, but the actors were not necessarily American. 'It is not very difficult to route traffic through another country using private networks and virtual techniques,' he said. ...Earlier on Friday Senior Minister Christopher Pyne appeared to confirm the disruption of the census came from within Australia.” Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 12 August 2016 6:01:11 PM
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I had my very first real fist fight aged just six and against a very much larger 15 year old bully, who picked me out of the blue, arguably because he couldn't find anyone smaller or weaker and reminiscent of the thundering abuse hurling chinese editor, for whom the truth is a complete stranger if it's about chinese officialdom and their totally lacking humanity or any vestige of an inherent morality?
THe lesson I took away that day despite my blackened eyes and bloody nose, was that bullies must always be stood up too, and you don't quit until it is them hollering uncle!
Better to live on your feet fighting for your dignity or basic human rights, than die on your knees having compromised every ideal you used to live by or hold true!?
That said, none of this need have troubled territory taking China or the vociferous verbosus verbal vomit editor, if drug cheats when exposed, were simply and permanently banned for life, as a matter of course!
Alan B.