The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Is the Census really useful? > Comments

Is the Census really useful? : Comments

By Michael Keane, published 3/8/2016

To understand the complexity and real world nature of service delivery is to understand why the Census is nothing more than a ritualistic waste of money.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. All
They don't count Forgotten Australian families. Forgotten Australians
(people who were in care as children) probably have poorer life outcomes than other Australians. But nobody knows this for sure
because people are not asked to state if they were in care as children. Forgotten Australians, according to the Senate Enquiry of 2004, number about 500,000. If their families are counted as well, this makes over a million Australians, still being Forgotten.
Posted by ForgottenAustralianFamily, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:29:32 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
If a census is necessary to provide a service, then why don't all other service providers, including those that provide housing, food, cars, clothing, medicines and electronic goods, all require the power to impose a compulsory census, asking what questions it thinks fit, and comppete with threats of punishment for non-compliance?

The statists as usual completely disregard the etjical dimension.

Far from being necessary to provide a service, the census is just a reflection of the economic calculation problem. All central planning necessarily imposes a disconnect between what is being produced and what the masses - society - want to be produced.

All the statistics and record-keeping, all the increase in government power in the world cannot overcome this fundamental defect and incompetence, which inheres in all socialism however named.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:41:17 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
The Census is a very inexpensive way that Australia, as a developed, progressive, nation, measures itself. On just one measure (the ability of the Census to accurately determine Total Population) the Census is crucial.

So a Census is part of Nation Building.

I fear that the author is a Luddite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite#In_modern_thought

One dribble away from a knuckle drag...
Posted by plantagenet, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 2:09:17 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
With changes to the length of time personal data is to be kept by Government, the Census is likely to produce unreliable data, as more people simply won't fill out the Census form.

What is meant by "Government", is "political parties", as political parties have taken control of our Government.

So if someone does not trust the political parties in Australia, (and I can not think of any reason why someone should trust the political parties in Australia), then they can not trust a political party to look at their personal data.

The political parties who agreed to change the Census system did not consult with the public before changing the Census system, so they are likely to change the Census system again, and again these political parties will not believe they have to consult with the public.

Besides the huge lack of trust that is developing, the Census is basically useless.

The population is being rapidly increased through immigration and the results of that are not predictable.

New suburbs are being built to house the rapidly increasing population, but these suburbs are basically not suitable for human existence.

These man made atrocities and are likely to produce a range of health and social issues in the future, ranging from social isolation and loneliness to increased drug taking to increased domestic violence to increased obesity in children because there is no where for the children to play.

So...the Census is just a farce with this unsustainable level of immigration, and rapidly increasing population that only the banks and real estate agents want.
Posted by interactive, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 3:32:19 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I don't really see what the problem is with the Census. It's got your name & address at the top, as every form has. This is used to check is you filled it out or not then is discarded. The rest of the information is placed on a Spreadsheet for later analysis.

What personal Data is collected. None that I can see. No Medical, No Police Record, No Traffic Violations, No bank details, No Investment details. They don't even ask if you drive a car or wear a hat.

All there is, is, How many people are in the house on that night, What type of house it is, Where you were born, How many children you have had if you are a woman, What faith if any. So what's to object to? Nothing.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 3:49:47 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Plantagenet,

Pharaoh was a great nation-builder, so were Stalin and Mao.

All they want is to build their pyramids, counting our bodies so they can use it as cement.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 9:28:22 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. Page 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy