Diver Dan
Interesting reflection. See my piece on lot.

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=2787

To Sells...

I think the one word to describe the Bible is intriguing. I'm like so many Christians who were guided in a family with Christian values, for which I am profoundly grateful.
The moral guidance to the individual is simple and straightforward, but without a respect for it, it is easy to imagine why a fierce opposition from the Godless, in who's life morality is simply an annoyance!
I love this story of Lot, it speaks a relevance to modern man. Who wouldn't wish to escape a society hell-bent on destroying its past Christian traditions, and replacing them with the vaporous "nonsensical" of modern secular life, and hold up in a cave?
The story also highlights the probability the escape route will be contaminated with the scum from the world the isolationist wishes the exit. Escape is impossible!

Lot and his family chose to survive, but at the price of compromise, which was the compromise to an ideal of morality. Christianity is now compromised from the growing community acceptance of homosexuality. (Lot's home surrounded by homosexuals). But which is the greater sin, to hang with the fags, or an incestuous relationship with two daughters, (euphemistically)? Interesting.

Diver Dan, we should be careful not to select certain parts of the old testament to put this article in perspective. The christian message is from Jesus Christ, hence the "Christ" in "Christ-ian" and he never condemned nor mentioned homosexuals. Doesn't matter what version of the Holy bible we are talking about either. JC simply does not mention the topic of homosexuality whatsoever.

As far as the article is concerned. "Great Sex" is open to interpretation. It's often cited that the orgasm is the cream on the cake so to speak... but the "build up" to orgasm, is that not the cake itself? Herein lies the dilemma that today's modern life, with all its pressures and time constraints fails to participate in.
This I believe is why modern forms of child free sex seem so shallow and meaningless.

Quality of time or time in quality is paramount or one misses the plot altogether.

Sorry Rojama, but the Old Testament is completely and entirely relevant to Christian teaching. Many a long sermon I have endured in the past, and I can assure you, the Christian message only makes sense in its total context of the Old Testament.

Homosexuality is an issue mentioned therein. In the case of Lot, it was very specifically mentioned as a moral and physical threat to Lot, and part of the reasons for fleeing Sodom.

Dear Dan,

Sorry to spoil a good analogy, but the homosexuality within the sins of Sodom was only incidental. The evils of the Sodomites didn't even have anything to do with "free-love", but everything to do with free-hate-and-greed: the people of Sodom used to torture and rob all visitors and it just so happened that at this very instance of Lot's two visitors, the torture happened to be through sexual rape - whereas on other occasions they used different methods of torture, such as the infamous Sodom-bed.

The following pages speak for themselves:
http://www.iwgonline.org/docs/sodom.html
http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/2017931/jewish/What-Was-Wrong-with-Sodom.htm

I can't allow myself to get sucked into that one Yuyutsu. Jewish text is not relevant to the Christian argument.

Outside of the portrayl of Lot being accosted by a band of homosexuals, as stated clearly in the Bible, ( the Christian Bible with less paraphernalia than the Jewish biblical texts), I am happy to conclude, apart from roaming rape gangs of homosexuals, I'm sure the depth of depravity extended deeper than a normal town of the region.

But let's not be trite; at least as trite as the Jews appear to be in their description of the sin of placing a bird net over a fruit tree! That is something I don't have a problem with, so one for the Jews then?