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When Harry met Jerry : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 29/7/2016

Take the family out of the picture and 'having sex' (that graceless construction) is reduced to the pleasure principle and details relating to 'good sex'.

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Look, You haven't a ruddy clue Sells, given you need to take your examples of " completely normal" human relationships from utterly absurd works of fiction! Bring on the plebiscite!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 29 July 2016 11:55:25 AM
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' "Good sex" is reduced to the orgasm that can, disturbingly, be faked.'

Not for anybody who knows what they are doing, it can't!
Posted by petere, Friday, 29 July 2016 12:24:33 PM
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What if promiscuous sex is my religion, Peter?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 29 July 2016 5:08:02 PM
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//"Good sex" is reduced to the orgasm that can, disturbingly, be faked.//

That's a very narrow and reductionist view of sex, Peter. Although it's hardly surprising, given the focus your article places on procreation - which is obviously impossible without the male orgasm.

Interestingly, in Middle Ages Europe it was accepted medical 'wisdom' that female orgasms were also required for conception. The idea was based on some deeply misguided ideas about human anatomy, and has fallen out of favour. Still, maybe it might make for better sex if all the medical researchers just conspired to pretend it's true.

Although not necessarily. For despite what you may have been led to believe, it is possible to enjoy sex without having an orgasm - and yes, guys, that applies to us as well. Sex is for fun, not just giving your selfish genes a free ride.

I consider "good sex" to be most of it, especially the sex I am personally involved in. Giggity.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 29 July 2016 6:48:28 PM
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The fact that Peter continues his swing towards conservatism is much more interesting than this tired piece, which merely puts his Church's received views forward without attempting to support them with the tiniest shred of evidence. Once again 'we' are told what 'we' supposedly think and feel; but as far as I can tell, 'we' in this case is only Peter and the mouse in his pocket, constructing their own simulated universe in which a god has something to offer.

Speaking for myself, I thoroughly enjoyed the results of the sexual revolution. As well as being very pleasant in themselves, these may have helped to save me from the kind of ill-fated marriage which often beset the generation above me, including my own older brothers.

Sexual freedom is simply a matter of human rights. Those who want to engage in any kind of sexual activity should be entitled to do so as long as they don't hurt others in the process; those who don't shouldn't be forced to do so. But since that would involve renouncing the control they hold through imposing guilt, it's unlikely the mainstream churches will ever agree.
Posted by Jon J, Saturday, 30 July 2016 10:22:50 AM
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Seems to me, a closer and more relevant biblical comparison of today's modern secular attitude towards free-love and all its consequences, would be the fate that befell Lot and his family!
(Genesis chapter nine).

This euphemistic story in my view, gives us a close encounter with the possibilities and outcomes which may eventually impact on society in relevant ways, and offer more sober warnings than Seinfeld would ever achieve!

The story opens interestingly, as Lot is surrounded by a marauding gang of homosexuals at his house, calling for access to the two angles of God, Lots guests, (morals and sensibility),
Lot offers his two Virgin daughters (normality), as a bribe to the gathered crowd of homosexuals, but the offer is refused.

The story is of course, one of Gods vengeance on moral decay in a society, is a telling one; the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

If the story ended there, it would be a simple lesson, but the bible complicates the situation, and muddies the water, when eventually Lot has sexual intercourse with his two daughters. The lesson for Sells? Maybe the contamination of Gods children by the society in which they live, can be devastating and unavoidable. ( the slow decay of Christian morals)
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 30 July 2016 2:26:01 PM
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